how up to date are the searches in sacbee, zillow, mls, and trulia?

Asked by Jack, Sacramento, CA Fri May 15, 2009

sometimes i find a house listed as sold on zillow, yet for sale in sacbee.
And the same for Trulia listings, they also differ from MLS.

Whats a buyer like me to do when i feel like i cant trust these listings?

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Steven Ornel…, Agent, Fremont, CA
Fri May 15, 2009
Hi Jack, I'm a Bay East Assoc of Realtors MLS Council member and I think I can provide some clarity here.

When an Association of Realtors is formed in a defined geographic area a MLS database platform must be decided upon (there are a few handfuls of standard software providers for this). After establishing a MLS system various AORs may decide to share information between them. There are standard data exchange protocols for this. If you are working with a Realtor its very important to know what geographic MLSs they have full access to.

Trulia and other "3rd party listing services" you have mentioned are not AORs; however, these service providers negotiate "data feed" agreements. Some AORs agree to these, others do not, and this is where comprehensiveness suffers. In cases where an AOR does not agree to a data feed agents can still upload listings manually. If not managed diligently old listings can remain on these sites. Trulia has negotiated direct-feed agreements with many AOR MLS systems, but it will be some time before its comprehensive.

One of the other issues with "3rd party listing services" is data integrity. I can’t even count the number of times I have had to inform home seekers about RealtyTrac’s deceptive data feed on Trulia (don’t get me wrong, I like Trulia, but I do not have any love for RealtyTrac). RealtyTrac is not a MLS; they just take public record and tease you with it so you will pay them a monthly fee to get more information. Most foreclosures are listed on the Realtor MLS sites - at market value, not the low price shown by RealtyTrac, which is nothing more than the amount(s) in default. . So, I enthusiastically submit the following to you: To remove all RealtyTrac “foreclosure” listings from your Trulia search results go to your search results page. Check out the Refine Search box on the left and scroll down to 'Listing Type'. Uncheck the 'foreclosure' selection and your search will update automatically and filter out all RealtyTrac listings.

As far as obtaining the most up-to-date comprehensive information the “Master” you should be using is because it pulls its data directly from all AOR databases nationwide. Once a property goes Pending or Sold it does not show on; however, other sites not directly tied into the AOR databases will show properties as Active when they are sold. While may be comprehensive, it can still be a little “clunky” from a User perspective.

Currently, there is an ongoing effort to establish a CA Statewide MLS, but it looks to be 12-18 mos. away; however, I'm looking forward to this being established.

In a nutshell, your best source for up-to-the-minute information is a local Realtor. I would suggest that you team with a Realtor and have them set up an automated "search agent" for you so you get notifications (that match your search criteria) automatically via email as soon as they are made on the MLS.

Best, Steve
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Sue Archer R…, Agent, Palm Harbor, FL
Fri May 15, 2009
Zillow and Trulia are manually updated by someone. like the owner, a realtor or ? MLS is sourced from the realtor's MLS system and the most reliable system. While sometimes there might be a delay of a day or two to record the sale, fellow realtors report regularly for any misinformation in the system and fines can be imposed for anyone reporting misinformation. I believe SacBee is sourced from MLS but I don't think it's updated as quickly.

Zillow and Trulia, as well as other websites, also source their information from public records. This can be confusing when a home goes back to the bank as a foreclosure. Many readers may think this is a 'sale' when it's really more of a transfer of ownership back to the lender. In the case, where it's more of a recording of a Notice of Default, the $ amount recorded may be nothing more than the delinquent amount and readers may think that the house is 'for sale' at this ridiculously low amount.

If you want to trust listings, use the MLS system. If you want to understand what any of the information is about, trust your realtor.

When a home is actually listed for a certain price, the realtor can guide you in what is the real value and help you determine how to be the buyer chosen, should it be a home that you would like to buy. The listing price could be so attractive, that mulitple buyers would be interested. It could be as little as $1,000, or how you request terms of the purchase that make you the buyer that the the seller chooses.

Good question Jack!
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