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Will I get a really good deal for all the time and aggravation in a short sale?

Asked by Boardwalk, Jersey, GA Tue May 13, 2008

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Deborah Madey, Agent, Brick, NJ
Tue May 13, 2008
A short sale, in and of itself, does not make for a good deal or bad deal. By this, I am defining a “good deal” as purchase which is financially advantageous to the buyer, purchased below fair market value.

Compare 3 scenarios below:

1) Short sale: Offered for sale at 300K. Comps support 350-360K. Loan balance is 365K. (Assume only 1 lien.) 4 offers made, ranging from 290K-322K. Bank rejected all offers and property went to foreclosure auction. If the bank would have accepted an offer, it probably would have been a win for all parties. The seller would have avoided a foreclosure, the buyer would have a good deal, and the bank would have a better net bottom line than they most likely will after an auction and REO sale. But, the bank rejected all offers. If you were one of the buyers, you invested time in the hopes of a good deal. But, it was gambled time, with no positive results. Was it worth the time invested? Probably, because, you might have gotten a yes from the bank.

2) Short sale: Offered at 280K. Comps support 260K. Loan balance is 310K. (Assume only 1 lien.) Cash offer at 280K, requiring no appraisal for mortgage. Was this a good deal for the buyer? Not if the comps do not support 280K. Simply because the purchase price is below the loan value does not mean it is a good deal. If you bought it for 260K, does the deal make sense? It’s fair market value. Are there other properties that would equally meet your needs that can be purchased at fair market value? If so, why take on the extra burden, stress and uncertainty of a short sale? If no other property meets you need, then, yes, the aggravation of the short sale is worth it at 260K (fair market value.) If you love the property, and you know the comps support 260K, but you really want the property and are willing to pay 280K, then you can do that. A good buyer agent will help you make informed decisions. Ultimately, the decisions are yours.

3) Short sale: Offered at 520K. Comps support 590K. Multiple offers result in an accepted contract at 545K. You just bought a property for 45K under market value. It was a lot of headache. The process took 5 months. You missed work, you fought with your spouse, and you kept looking at properties every week, just in case this did not work out. Was that worth 45K? For some, the answer will be an boisterous and resounding “YES!” For others, the answer will be, “Forget about it. Don’t do it.”
In the end, the answer is, “It depends upon you and it depends upon the property and circumstances.”

Deborah Madey - Broker
Peninsula Realty Group
New Jersey
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Marc J Willi…, Agent, Whiting, NJ
Tue May 13, 2008
Maybe yes, maybe no. I was the go to guy for over 1000 REO sales in several states. That is (reo) already owned by the lender. MOST short sales can be worth while. IF you can find who the one person is that must sign off on the deal.
If you need a home, to live in, buy something certain. In a short sales it can die minutes before closing. Sellers can file bankruptcy and hold off some sales. Many many other issues could arise.

I wasn't going to answer this questions because it could give false hope to a person in real need. Don't gamble on a home. BUT yes, try to buy a cheaper house. good luck
marc williams 732-778-9933
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thinz, Agent, Allenhurst, NJ
Mon May 18, 2015
You would have gotten a much better deal back in 2008-2012. These days, the lenders are becoming more rigid on escalated BPO values that don't reflect true AS IS MARKET VALUE.
That is why more lenders are foreclosing vs settling on a short sale. The BPO process is flawed in my opinion based on discussions with the lender and evaluating comps...We get the short sales done, and for the most part the buyer is still getting a good deal. The risk for the seller is that if the lender accepts a lower offer, they may expect the seller to come up with cash at closing to complete the deal. It is important on behalf of the seller to get the highest and best offer that reflects the condition of the home and its salability. This helps the seller get the best terms for the approval and the buyer still get a good value purchase. Tom Hinz
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Connie Fitzg…, Agent, California, MD
Sun Feb 24, 2013
Short sales can be time consuming, BUT as long as you have the right agent and lender to help you along the way (granted that the seller/their agent cooperates) it will definitely be rewarding when you get settled! Best of luck :)
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Carolyn Wins…, Agent, Jackson, NJ
Fri Feb 20, 2009
If any body tells you any different than they have not been involved through the process of doing a short sale.Yes short sales can bring on all kinds of delays and unexpected problems,but if you choose the right agent who is up front with you from the begining then you will already know this and you wont be upset.Because yes there will be delays and most likely alot of negotiating going on between all parties involved that will tend to prolong the whole process.But if your okay waiting this could be one of the best and rewarding investments you can make.But be prepared for the unexpected and definetly make sure you pick an agent who is a good communicater. I cant tell you how many times I had to carry my phone every where I went and I mean everywhere,because when you have to leave a message for the bank to call you back and they do you better get the call or it could be days or weeks before you get that person again.Personally I love to see people get a great deal and also be helping the other one get through a tough situation in life.So I guess my answer to your question would be I think you would get a great deal for all your aggravation.Carolyn Winston Realtor Assc.Crossroads Realty 732-407-7724
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Blake Voorhe…, , Seattle, WA
Tue May 13, 2008
Great question, and one that turns on:

1) The degree to which, at the current list price, the home achieves high ratios in meeting your sought objectives, both tangible and intangible (lifestyle needs, style, financial, etc);
2) The difference between market value and list price;
3) Whether the ratio between 1 and 2 reflects an uncommon cost/benefit to you not likely to be easily achieved again in the future.

Working with your Realtor, you should find it relatively easy to ferret out whether it's worth putting in an offer. And remember, the aggravation experienced is usually by the Realtors and the seller, as they are the ones who will be marshaling the short-sale process with the lender(s). As the Buyer, you are in the position least likely to experience aggravation, -- provided the bank approves the short-sale.

So long as you can accept a protracted escrow (30-60 days, generally), roll with the fact the lender(s) may be non-responsive for days or weeks at a time, graciously recognize that short-sales are not guaranteed sales, and stay occupied to keep your mind off the transaction, the experience should not put you over the edge and will possibly provide you a great home at an uncommon value.

Blake Voorhees, Realtor, Windermere RE Co, Seattle WA (206) 524-1100
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Munish Sawhn…, , Summit, NJ
Tue May 13, 2008
The only aggravation is the time you have to wait for the bank's to make a decision. In todays real estate market you can get good deals.
You can actually hire an attorney to represent you. to get a list od Short Sale properties, check the link below.
Here is the information for a short sale specialist
Mr. Charles M. Damian (Lawyer)

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Gina Chirico, Agent, Fairfield, NJ
Tue May 13, 2008
Well it all depends. Considering on your timeframe for moving - banks seem to delay on responding and/or countering to short sales offers. Typically the property is sold "as is" so depending on the condition of the house - is it really worth it for you, the buyer to purchase the house and make the necessary improvements, if need be? Not all short sales are in bad condition and not all short sales are good deals. You should keep your options open if you are looking for a good deal. There are quite a few houses in my market that are well priced and are well conditioned homes. Keep in mind that short sales are far from being short and may not totally be worth all the aggravation that does come along with them. Good luck!

Gina Chirico
Prudential New Jersey Properties
973-715-1158 cell
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Kimberly Mag…, , Maryland
Tue May 13, 2008
It depends on how much equity the property has. There are deals to be had out there you just need the right agent o help you.
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