I'm selling for 870K. The buyer wants to put 30% down. I'm concerned comps average 775K. Is that % down enough to get deal done?

Asked by Charles, Staten Island, NY Thu Oct 17, 2013

Is there a rule of thumb I can use to gauge buyer's qualification for mortgage so we don't waste 2 months and have to start over? I'm concerned that pre-approval doesn't mean much.

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Gary R. DeFi…, Agent, New York, NY
Thu Oct 17, 2013
30% is a dream down payment to most sellers. As for pre-approval, it is definitely better than pre-qualified and means
that the bank has already vetted this borrower and unless something extraordinary happens the bank will loan the amount pre-approved.

You, as the seller, don't need to concern yourself with how to gauge the buyer's qualifications. That is what you have an agent for. And the appraisal by the bank is what should worry you the most. If the property doesn't appraise for $87k then you won't have a deal anyway.
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Jill Subes, Agent, Staten Island, NY
Thu Oct 17, 2013
It is definitely enough down , but are the buyers still willing to buy your home if the appraisal comes in $95,000 les then you are asking. That is what I would worry about.
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Anna M Brocco, Agent, Williston Park, NY
Thu Oct 17, 2013
Keep in mind that if the property doesn't appraise for the higher number, your buyer may walk regardless, or could ask that you renegotiate for a lesser number; therefore you may be wasting two months regardless who the buyer is, or the amount down. Ask your agent the question, he/she can better advise based on the pre-approval letter....
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Sat Nov 16, 2013
If the contract does not have an appraisal value contingency and the borrower qualifies on income and assets and the Loan to Value based upon appraisal value is no more than 80% then the deal is sealed and the seller can not walk away. I hope this helps. If you like to discuss more please contact me.


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Thu Oct 17, 2013
Hi Charles,
Assuming the buyers would be doing a Jumbo Conforming Loan as opposed to some specialty product, that should be enough to get the deal done without you having to lower the price.

Their lender won't care since the loan-to-value they use will still be under 80%. It might cost the buyer 1/8% more in rate, but you could certainly offer to throw some money their way to make up for this. Maybe $1500-$2000 towards their closing costs or something, This would surely be better than dropping the purchase price to $775,000. The buyer is still coming up with the same amount of money out of their pocket and still owes the same, so they shouldn't care.

As far as guaging their qualification, read the pre-approval letter or pre-qualification letter they provided you. See who wrote the letter. Is it from a legitimate bank or broker that is well known? That's a good sign, although not necessarily a deal breaker. There are plenty of reputable smaller lenders out there. Most importantly, what does the letter say? The more detail the better, and you'll want to see wording that they have already pulled a credit report and reviewed their income and assets. If they have not, then that letter is not worth the paper it's printed on.

Better yet, use your Realtor to help you with evaluating things. Ask if the know of this lender and if it's a reputable company or they have had good or bad experiences. You could have your Realtor call the loan officer and try and find out how far the buyers have gone through in the approval process. They are not obligated to divulge this info, but many good loan officers will.

Finally, you might want to express your concerns to the buyer's side. It may be that if the home doesn't appraise they would walk away if you don't lower the price. Or, they might love the home so much that so long as it doesnt affect their mortgage they will do whatever it takes. Tell them up front that you understand the appraisal is a crapshoot, but you don't plan on lowering the price if it comes in lower. See how they react and you may get a feel as to the mindset of those buyers and whether you feel comfortable accepting the offer.

Above all, express these concerns to your Realtor. He or she should be providing you with good advice and setting your backup plan for the "what if's" that could happen.

Good luck!
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Don Tepper, Agent, Burke, VA
Thu Oct 17, 2013
Sure. Your Realtor can help you with that--it deals with debt-to-income ratios.

However, I think you're confusing a couple of different things.

The buyer's qualifications depend on those ratios I mentioned, as well as credit scores, etc. The question to be answered is: Can your buyer afford the payments he'd be making?

However, you've got another problem: The house might not appraise for $870,000. Your buyer could be pre-approved for a $870,000 but that really wouldn't be the salient factor. The bank is only going to lend based on the appraised value of the property. So let's say the bank appraisal comes in at $775,000. If they're prepared to lend 80% of that, or $620,000, then your buyer has to come up with the difference: $250,000 (plus his share of the closing costs).

Now, you said he's prepared to put 30% down. That's $261,000. That looks like it could work. From the bank's perspective, your buyer might be overpaying by $95,000...but the bank won't care so long as there's 20% equity in the property, based on the appraised value...and so long as your buyer is capable of making payments on that $620,000 mortgage.

Check with your Realtor for more information.

Hope that helps.
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