property management forging signature!!

Asked by Pink07, 08330 Tue Jul 21, 2009

now not only this landlord has no licnce and his business entity isnt registerd with the state nor the city but now the real owner of this house filed a complaint against him in april of this year due to him forging her signature on his daughter school loan. i have landlord tennant court this week how can this bennefit me in court along with all the illegal stuff he has already?

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William Leigh…, , New Jersey
Wed Jul 22, 2009

We've talked about this ever-developing story before. I know you are not in great shape to hire an attorney. Perhaps there is a legal aid organization in your area. I'd also check with a large law firm to see if they would give you some pro bono support. I really think you might need legal counsel at this point.

This is not legal advice. I am not licensed to give such advice. However, I will make these observations:
1. Just who is taking your to court? A complaint had to be filed. If it is not the real owner, they may not have standing to initiate a complaint.
2. If you paid an imposter and now the real owner demands payment all over again, they may be entitled to receiving it, if they were completely innocent of the affair. On the other hand, since this guy has a long history of some sort with the real owner, it may be that the owner allowed you to think that he was collecting for her. Then it will be a matter of proofs and other corroborating evidence.
3. If you have not paid the rent for some time, you will probably find that, mitigating stories or not, state laws will force you to leave the property.
4. If you have a good relationship with the real owner (and that's questionable, since she may be the one taking you to court,) you may be able to negotiate a deal where past rent is forgiven if you start paying immediately and perhaps accept a small increase, if you can afford it. In this situation, the owner can only lose even more money by kicking you out, refurbishing the property and searching for a suitable tenant with a good financial position. After all, the owner will not want to get another tenant who will not pay the rent. That would just compound her problems.
5. No matter where all this stands, no matter who said what to whom, no matter "who shot John," it looks that at best you have a very shaky tenancy. The real owner may be stripped of ready cash and not be able to keep up the property and pay a mortgage, if she has one. If she loses the place and you do not have a lease, the lender may force you out quickly. I know there are laws on the books protecting tenants but I also know that there are limits to what a tenant can do to stay in a property. Therefore, it may be wise to start looking for a new place to live. I know you don't want to. I know that you have kids in schools you want to have them going to. I guess that you may find it difficult to find a place that offers what you need on your budget. Nevertheless, it would be better to search without an eviction on your record and without the added pressure of being out on the street in a week or two, which will certainly be the case if all this goes down badly and you have not got your ducks in row before it does.

Wish I could help in a more concrete way but I cannot represent you in legal affairs and I do not work in your area.

Bill Holt
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Don Tepper, Agent, Burke, VA
Wed Jul 22, 2009
Very good analysis and suggestions by William.

And I'm not a lawyer, either, so this isn't legal advice. However . . . .

Regarding the validity of your lease (and thus your obligations and those of the owner or the owner's representative) It's totally irrelevant whether your landlord committed forgery.

The questions are: (1) Do you have a valid lease? And (2) Are you and the owner in compliance with the lease?

You need a lawyer to sort out the issues, and to focus on the relevant facts.
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Laura Gianno…, Agent, Manahawkin, NJ
Wed Jul 22, 2009
This is not legal advice. If he is not licensed, but claims to be a property manager that sounds to me like he has no standing to bring you to landlord tenant court.

Laura Giannotta
Keller Williams Atlantic Shore
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Carolyn Fent…, , 07825
Wed Jul 22, 2009

Are you being represented by an attorney? It would depend on the case you have in court. It won't matter at all if you don't have case.
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Austin Apart…, , Austin, TX
Tue Jul 21, 2009
Contact your local Real Estate commision and an attorney. Make sure you have proof before you do either.
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Bill Eckler, Agent, Venice, FL
Tue Jul 21, 2009
These are pretty serious accusations that should be supported with proof as well as legal support from an attorney.
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Fred Griffin, , Tallahassee, FL
Tue Jul 21, 2009
Have you retained a Real Estate Attorney yet?

You need a Real Estate Attorney to investigate, document, and verify these allegations.

Best wishes,
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Pete Maimone, Agent, North Brunswick, NJ
Tue Jul 21, 2009
why are you going to landlord tenant court? has the so called property manager forged documents relating to your tenancy?:
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