my credit score was 642 on 2/18/12 , i did a refinance on my home, now it went down to 577. Can the refinance lower my credit score???

Asked by Eve Jeanbart, West Palm Beach, FL Tue Jun 5, 2012

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Wed Mar 27, 2013
Not likely because we can't work with a 577 score so most likely this happened after the fact. We have many tools to improve credit quickly including a rapid rescore that takes 5 business days but first we would need to diagnose the problem.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014
I feel like nobody read and directly answered the question. A rate and term refinance would not hurt your credit scores at all. If you increased your loan amount substantially thru cash-out that was not applied to debt reporting on your credit then the percentage ratio of debt increase would lower your scores. Like when you bought a home initially you took on a new large debt so your scores dropped 20 - 40 points and after benchmark periods on a new term loan your scores begin to recover the loss. Term loans are meant to leave debt on your reporting with incremental payments gradually decreasing that items debt ratio. Benchmarks are another ratio in the algorithm they each have. 12, 24, 36 months and so on. On a new term debt loan it burdens your scores less and less each 12 months you have good payment history, even though the debt ratio is barely paid own. It's a shock payment/debt factor that you are showing success in handling.

I want to go back to ratios. All credit scoring methods revolve around the ratio of time good or negative. Debt ratio per trade line and overall is the key. That and knowing that any balance left unpaid on a credit card each month is a negative even if you never miss a payment. Revolving credit lines or credit card are meant to be paid of to zero each month. You are supposed to use them as credit to pay off not as a variable term loan as many Americans seem to practice. I educate every client of this when I am disclosing their credit scores. I provide the full credit report and use it as the tool to help them understand how we read credit and more importantly, how the scoring models evaluate the reporting.

Ratio of debt from revolving credit (get it? revolving door means you pay it right back.) or credit cards with unpaid balances hurt your scores more according to the ratio of the credit limit left unpaid. Example: $1000 balance on $5000 limit card is a 20% ratio and holds less negative scoring weight than $3000 balance on the card at a 60% unpaid balance. People really destroy their credit when they leave more than 50% of the available credit limit left unpaid. They used revolving funds that were supposed to be paid back on the monthly due date. No late payment is assessed. Banks love you leaving unpaid balances that they can increase the rate on at will. They often increase the limit so you can borrow more and earn them much more. They even give you a minimum payment so you can be an addict for life. lol.

The take away is use credit cards like an adult and pay them off with money you have. They are not to be used as a term loan. Term loans with high ratios are fine and do not hurt credit scores. You are paying them incrementally over long periods as per your agreement. $1 on a revolving credit account is a negative. You left an unpaid balance and are breaking the agreement to repay the full credit extended to you. Once again the ratio of debt to available credit limit on each account determines the weight of the negative affect on scoring your credit.

Never mising a pay but continually increasing your unpaid debt ratios either in dollar or percentage will continue to lower your scores by greater affect as that ratio or dollar balance grows over time.

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Bob Brubaker, Agent, Lake Worth, FL
Wed Jun 6, 2012
Like Antonio ponted out . - The " Refinance " will at first show the report of new debt!
It will take the old lender's report of a " pay-off " to begin to "normalize" The
susequent reports of consistant and timely payments on your new loan brings
on the opportunity for a "rating " of your payment " profile "
Just for " peace of mind " you may want to contact your pld lender as to how
and when the"PAY-OFF" will be reported then check for the results. This
alone should be significant to the positive! You could also ask your cuurent
lender their experience on the effect of new loan " seasoning " on credit
scores. Best of success! Contact me directly when you are ready to
make your move!

Bob Brubaker Highlight Realty Palm Beach County Fl. 561-876-6649
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Eve Jeanbart, Home Buyer, West Palm Beach, FL
Wed Jun 6, 2012
my credit went down to 577, i wanna buy a house if i pay all my debts. Would it boost up my credit in 3 months.......
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Antonio Vega…, Agent, Saint Cloud, FL
Tue Jun 5, 2012
YES, of course, since now you have new and higher debt. But in a few months of paying on time it will come back to nurmal and hopefully go above 642. Once your old loan shows as paid in full it will also help bring it up.
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thanks! your answear really hepls
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