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Noah, , Chester County, PA
Mon Jan 28, 2008
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I'll be upstairs at Cannon's on St. Charles Ave all day Tuesday - and on Lundi Gras, all over the place! Big party on Sunday over at Audobon. My designation on that day will be HAAC Happy As A Clam.

I'll be wearing Leopard and beads.
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Realtor, ,
Tue Jan 29, 2008
It's only a Realtor status thing. I think there is a quote by Zig Zigler, "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care" or something like that.
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Jim Walker, Agent, Carmichael, CA
Mon Jan 28, 2008
Only designation that is asked is " Are you a broker? " as if that was somehow superior to being an agent or a Realtor..

Once it is explained there is usually no problem.. Never had anyone ask about a CRS or GRI or Masters Club....other than other agents being superior. Drinks are on me the 1st time a consumer asks me if I am on Trulia's leaderboard. Ha! - Don't wait too long I don't want any deaths from thirst on my conscience.
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Noah, , Chester County, PA
Mon Jan 28, 2008
Here are some designations that I would respect in an agent:
PAT: Paperwork All There
DGH: Doesn't Get Hysterical
PLA: Presents Listings Accurately
QML; Quick Message Leaver
NLG: Negotiates Like Ghandi
NTIWS: Not Too Impressed With Self
SPNS: Says Phone Number Slowly
And perhaps the most important one: GTHDWOALOC - Gets The Job Done With Out A Lot of Crapdedoodle

Hey! Christian, I'll be in YOUR town next week for Mardi Gras! You guys throw a heck of a party!
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Brendan Murp…, , Laramie, WY
Thu Jan 31, 2008
One last thing about CRS:
The statistics are real. Why do 4% of REALTORS make 25% of the residential sales?? Is this a coincidence? The 4% have the CRS designation. I drove 6 hours to go to these classes, sometimes only 4 hours. I'm in Wyoming, where these classes are sparse. But after ONE class, I saw the value and proved it with my own business (as an independent contractor).
Now unless you've taken these classes, you really don't know the answer to your question. I've been without these classes AND with them, thus I am qualified to answer IMO.
Now if you think you know more than you do or you think you know it all, then some might call you a fool, isn't that what a fool is? The ultimate business strategy is in a word, Humility.
Take a CRS class with an open mind and you should feel a spark of excitement about your business.
And lastly, remember, everyone is your teacher (and student)... Many agents I know see Continuing Education as a hassle. I see it as an opportunity to become more specialized.
In my first 2 years in the business, I took over 160 hours of elective credits (only 22 are required in a 3 year period in Wyoming). And I still sold over 8 million (which is in the top 5% of my market) my 2nd year. Perhaps there is a correlation here, you decide.

-Brendan
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SM, , Lakeland, FL
Mon Jan 28, 2008
I have yet to have anyone ask me whether I am a CRS or not. My belief is that the public doesn't understand the designations. I am a learning based individual and seek out education on an ongoing basis through seminars both locally and nationally, however I have not been compelled to get the CRS or GRI designation. It definitely can’t hurt to receive the designations and if nothing else will build your professional resume and give you additional confidence. Good luck!
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Donald Mituz…, Agent, Chappaqua, NY
Thu Feb 7, 2008
The only person it may matter to is another Realtor. If you're looking to refer a customer, it gives you some indication that the other agent didn't get their license and then go back to sleep. The key ones to me are CCIM if I have a commercial investor and CIPS if the buyer/seller is international. The pet peeve I have is that NAR has annual dues for a lot of these designations. They don't give much back for the dues. Kind of like what Steven Wright said....How come you have to put your 2 cents in but you only get a penny for your thoughts?
Don (CIPS)
Web Reference:  http://www.nyhomeseller.com
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Marisa Beltr…, , Ship Bottom, NJ
Fri Feb 1, 2008
Seems nobody knows what all these letters mean.....and never heard anybody saying with awe" Oh, she is an ABR!". I graduated from agent to broker with blessings from the State of New Jersey many years ago, and this is not impressive either...
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Brendan Murp…, , Laramie, WY
Thu Jan 31, 2008
Frankly, I think the big misconception is that it's about the LETTERS, (it's not). No, they don't care, and I don't use it like that....I don't say "ms. seller, hire me because I have the 2nd most designations in my market and #1 doesn't like you") lol. No, but I DO use what I learned and beat other REALTORS all the time. GRI gives additional education and CRS gives Strategy. I highly recommend both of these designations. I know CRS made me an additional $30,000 the first year I had it. I imagine over my professional career, I'll make MILLIONS from being a CRS, but NOT because I can say "hey, I'm a CRS". No, because I applied what I learned. I have 180 credit hours of college too, and ultimately I got a degree or two just for the sake of saying "I'm finally done". But I DO actually use about 30-50 of those credits and make money off them. Think I impress people by saying I'm a "Bachelor of Science"....heck no, and perhaps LESS when they find out it's in Economics lol ("back away slowly and don't make eye contact")
But they are impressed when I can rattle on about macro-economic policy or explain certain concepts or ultimately apply it to daily life. 2 children arguing over the shower is an issue of economics.... So are lines at the grocery store. See?
Anyway, believe me you've lost MUCH MORE than you think, especially by ignoring CRS if you've not taken those classes. As a broker, I will REQUIRE and PAY for my agents to take CRS classes. Either I'm crazy, or I know something you don't :)
Even some CRS's make the mistake of thinking it's about the designation itself, it's about what you learned. You suggested you're impressed if they have a college degree. I'm not, how does that saying go? "the world is full of educated derelicts". While I wouldn't want to trade in my University degrees, CRS makes me more $. But combine CRS with a business degree and you're just plain deadly.
Just my "moderate" opinion. But Consider if you will .... what you have NOT considered.

Just a little piece of this reality for you: One of my favorite analogies to explain this is from CRS who got it from who knows where: 3 animals are stranded on a desert island, there are no other animals.
The stranded animals are a Lion, a Dog, and a Monkey.
Which one survives???





The answer is : The monkey.

The lion eats the dog and the monkey runs up a tree. The lion starves to death whilest the monkey eats leaves and bugs and who knows what else. The monkey survives because he has the most options. In other words, he or she is the most dynamic of the 3 creatures, he/she has the most options in a given environment. So a CRS motto is "be the monkey of your marketplace".

There are brokers in every market that never change, they will be fine until a monkey shows up.

I hope you can gain something from my ramblings!

Brendan Murphy
Broker, CRS, GRI, ePro
Raving Real Estate
Laramie, WY 82070
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Tammy Benkwi…, Agent, Somers, NY
Tue Jan 29, 2008
I agree that the public does not know what GRI, ABR, CRS mean. But they know it means something.

I think the real value is in learning how to do my job better. This of course leads me to earn more money and waste less time.

I have had other agents send referrals to me because of my designations. Also, if you are interested pursuing other career avenues in real estate such as training or management in the future, it can't hurt to have a few designations. If you are required to take CE, then you might as well apply it toward a designation.
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Dianna Ivanov, Agent, Ridgewood, NJ
Tue Jan 29, 2008
Noah, I loved the designations you've come up with! I couldn't have said it better. I can't decide which one annoys me more, the person who rambles on and on while leaving a message that I finally hang up or the person who you have to replay over and over to try and catch the number. Touche!
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;, , Riverhead, NY
Mon Jan 28, 2008
And a tag question: have you EVER had anyone ask if you are a Realtor, as opposed to a real estate agent? It was so difficult to send in my dues this year, knowing that I could access mlsli without belonging to the NAR. It's almost an embarrassment at this point, at least for me. Not much accomplished in the way of consumer confidence.
Web Reference:  http://optionsrealty.com
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Alan May, Agent, Evanston, IL
Mon Jan 28, 2008
I think all of we agents will agree, that the education we received, and the pursuit of additional education shows a dedication to our chosen career... certainly a good thing.

But, thus far, to clients it appears to be an unimportant addition to our business cards that they're not concerned about nor do they understand.
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Brenda Newman, , Franklin, TN
Mon Jan 28, 2008
For me, it establishes credibility, shows my commitment to my career and to education and provides added value when competing for business. I have my ABR and GRI and am now working towards my CRS...I am a firm believer in education and buiding credibility with my clients! After all, this is my career and I'm in it for the long haul.
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Dianna Ivanov, Agent, Ridgewood, NJ
Mon Jan 28, 2008
Oh BOY, I hope so or I've wasted a lot of $$$. Just kidding! Actually I'm pretty sure that I haven't lost any listings by not having a designation next to my name however by being well educated on all aspects of our business I'm sure I feel more confident and therefore project that to my clients . I make sure that they know that they're in good hands and that I'm doing the best possible job for them. I also feel that as a professional it's my responsibility to be educated on the subject .
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Sandy McCloud…, Agent, Savannah, GA
Mon Jan 28, 2008
As a CRS and ABR, I've found that although consumers may not realize the value in that education--but informed agents who want to send clients to service focused agents do! It's definitely been worth it for the business--and I feel confident using CRS agents when I refer (if they have ABR too, then all the better).
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Evelyn R. Pa…, , 95363
Mon Jan 28, 2008
I think that many consumers don't really understand the designations. However, over time, it may become more important as consumers become more educated. I'd like to get the desginations, however, because I am in a very remote area of California, I have a minimum 6 hour drive one way to get to the nearest training facility -- so for now, I don't have them.
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Kathy Fisher, Agent, Decatur, TX
Mon Jan 28, 2008
I have found that it just depends on the part of the country you are in. As Sean stated, I have NEVER had anyone ask me if I had designations or not, because they just don't understand what they stand for. Yes, probably in the near future as the general public get smarter with our designations, they will become more important. Right now, in my area they look nice but that's about it for now.
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Mr.P, , Arizona
Mon Jan 28, 2008
Sorry, yes it does matter. It is proof of education.

Even though I am not a big fan of the NAR, its rules or even the content of their courses. look up what is offered in the e-pro course. "How to use email" oh ya.

Bottom line is the general population cares.

On the topic of education, check out this site. It is great

http://www.TSTN.com
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Alan May, Agent, Evanston, IL
Mon Jan 28, 2008
I am an ABR and CRS (along with a Coldwell Banker designation of CNS... Certified Negotiation Specialist).

I've never had a client ask about them, care about them or make the decision of whether to hire me based on them. I find the only people who are interested in them (and only peripherally) are my fellow Realtors®.

They do, indicate a dedication to the business, and ongoing education, and I find the courses and networking valuable. But I agree with Sean, the public doesn't understand the alphabet that follows our names, nor do they care about them.
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