Renting to foreign diplomat's

Asked by Sarah Ziehr, Chicago, IL Mon Nov 26, 2012

They insist that their colleagues have not had to put up advance rent monies. This is the second renter I've come across in the last six months telling me this story. Is it a scam? The only time I've rented to a person without a US ss# would be when they or their company paid rent in advance up to a year.

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Manuel Brown, Agent, Chicago, IL
Tue Nov 27, 2012
Sarah,

While many scammers are out there you will still come across a very real foreign renter. Ann Ryan gave you some good advice. This year I rented to a Canadian medical student completing her medical rotation. You should approach a foreign rental the same way as someone who has residency in the U.S. with a little difference.

Qualify your client:

1) Make sure your potential client has the proper visa for all members occupying rental. (Diplomatic Visa, United Nation Visa, or Student Visa)
2) Your potential client must provide proof of financial worthiness.
a) Yearly verifiable stipend from the origin country.
b) Verifiable job letter.
c) University or college acceptance letter in conjunction with financial see a).

In the case with my medical student no additional months paid upfront was necessary because we had all our ducks in a row and it was sight un-seen other than photographs with a Streeterville high end rental apartment building. Please note I am only speaking about the Streeter Place requirements for this particular foreign renter. Each company or private landlord will decide on their own requirements.

It basically comes to this, the person who contacts you must be willing to provide to you upfront proper documentation before you starting working with them as well a commit to working with you until you have accomplished to goal of finding them the right place to live. It is a little more work but very rewarding in the end. If the person on the other side of the email dances around the issue of providing you proper information it is a scam.

Best of luck,

Manuel Brown
iMove Chicago
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Ann Ryan, Agent, Doral, FL
Tue Nov 27, 2012
Sarah, a lot will depend on the rank and country of the diplomats, but no deposit would definitely be unusual. If they're a foreign diplomat they should be able to give you a copy of their U.S. visa, which will be type - A for diplomatic, not anything else. (Unless there's some international organization I haven't heard of in Chicago they're working for, like the United Nations, in which case they'd have a G).
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Broker Martin, Agent, Chicago, IL
Mon Nov 26, 2012
Yes Caution Beware.

The number one factor in manipulation is to create an atmosphere of doubt in self.

These scam artist are talented in the gift of convincing you that they are right and you in need self correction. The deceptive practice is so undetectable at times that you may start to question your knowledge.

You are correct to stand your ground :)
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Joan Lorberb…, Agent, Boca Raton, FL
Sun Dec 2, 2012
When in doubt leave it out! Follow your instincts!
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JIM Michaels, Agent, Chicago, IL
Fri Nov 30, 2012
Fair housing claims arise frequently as a result of the application and screening process.
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Annette Law…, Agent, Palm Harbor, FL
Tue Nov 27, 2012
Double the deposit!
Make it NON REFUNDABLE!
If they blink, raise the rent also.
NEXT.

No one is looking after you best interests EXCEPT you. As Broker Martin stated, "self-doubt" can be costly.Once they are in your troubles really begin.
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Bill J Delig…, Agent, Naperville, IL
Tue Nov 27, 2012
If the person is truly a diplomat then they should have no problem providing their employer's guarantee of not only rent but their employment status and proposed length of stay. Since they do not have some of the basic information that you would ask of a normal customer, then they should compensate for this by providing with more rent up front.
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Joe Schiller, Agent, Chicago, IL
Tue Nov 27, 2012
I rented to diplomats and we put up 4 months security on our own
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Luke Wojcik, Agent, Chicago, IL
Mon Nov 26, 2012
i just rented a place to a Mexican national coming here on a Visa and even though we couldn't run her credit she was more than willing to put down 2 months of security deposit and was very open throughout the process. I cant see why a foreign diplomat would raise a stink over this. Stand your ground
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Matt Laricy, Agent, Chicago, IL
Mon Nov 26, 2012
I deal with a lot of international clients. If something smells fishy, it usually is. What your asking sounds off.
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Philip Sencer, Agent, Chicago, IL
Mon Nov 26, 2012
I have rented to Foreign nationals and they never had a problem with paying rent/security deposit in advance. Just say no.
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Jose Hernand…, Agent, Chicago, IL
Mon Nov 26, 2012
Not necessarily a scam, there's many international students that come to the U.S. and this is one of their obstacles because of no social security. Ask for a passport , visa and a few months of rent in advance.
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Albert Cossy…, Agent, Chicago, IL
Mon Nov 26, 2012
Simple solution- call their embassy to confirm their status. I personally had a transaction with a foreign diplomat and the $$$$ was not an issue. I agree with Ivan- go with your gut.
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Ivan Sagel, Agent, Chicago, IL
Mon Nov 26, 2012
Sarah,

If it doesn't seem right, then go with your gut.

All the best,

Ivan Sagel
312.515.7823
Ivan@atproperties.com
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Corey D. McC…, Agent, Chicago, IL
Mon Nov 26, 2012
A Foreign Diplomat's Embassy would pay the rent and would never balk at it because that is the local custom and rule. How ever it sounds like you are refering to a foreign national.
I can't call it a scam but a person who is trying to see what you will let them get away with.
Shouid you rent to them be prepared for an eviction action.
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Cesar Gonzal…, Agent, Chicago, IL
Mon Nov 26, 2012
SCAM STAY AWAY... I DEAL WITH MANY RENTERS AND 99% OF THE TIME WHEN YOU GET AN EMAIL FROM A FOREIGNER THEY WILL ASK YOU WHAT THE TOTAL COST TO MOVE IN...LIBRARIES...EXPRESSWAYS...SCAM STAY AWAY
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