OK, this is getting ridiculous! What on Earth does this have to do with REAL ESTATE?

Asked by John Arendsen, Leucadia, CA Thu Mar 14, 2013

What and Where on Earth is Trulia Management? I was once proud to be a member of this blog but know I'm having second thoughts.

http://www.trulia.com/discussion/Home_Buying-plus_females_st…

This is by far beyond the pale and going way over the edge. I now have no doubt that the CEO of Trulia is on vacation somewhere in la la land with Tim Cook because it's apparent he's not at the helm of this site.

Kick me off this site if you wish but I'm ashamed of the way you've let this site fall to the like of these rediculous spams. In fact I'm not even sure I want to be a part of this once very good REAL ESTATE platform any longer.

This is exactly the type of SPAM that's going to ruin TRULIA and I don't see them doing anything about it. In fact I'm not even sure where or how this ever started but at the bottom of all the questions is another question that looks like a question but it ends up at the bottom of dozens of questions.

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Annette Law…, Agent, Palm Harbor, FL
Sat Mar 16, 2013
John,
Thanks for sending a message from the choir.
I do understand your point. In the instance you pasted, this was generated by a bot. The are a gazillion squared of these out there. The garble is designed to get around the host filters. Works well as you can see. You, me and the whole family of Trulia contributors can not prevent this. ONLY Trulia has the gatekeeper tools to resolve this...but to be frank, this is chasing smoke with a net...the bots can not be stopped.
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The real issue of great irritation for me is the contributors and paying participants who are able to post a duplicate message in a gazillion squared locations. You are right, this DOES influence ranking in search engines. However, it is crucial to truly understand...You can not care more about Trulia than those who own and operate this website. You will be punished for your good intentions.
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You should be aware the 'holy grail of SEO is human activity. fingers touching keyboards. A lot of activity, new content (even garbled)...comments....that is the seo holy grail....today. (your question and comments are helping SEO today.)

If Trulia's intent is to degrade this site to be of no value to the consumer, we as professionals need be be ready to provide those bereft citizens a pathway to enlightenment. This should be your mission, if you choose to accept it. Let Truilia admin do with Trulia what ever they want. It is a MISTAKE for you me or anyone to fret even one moment about it. Perhaps Trulia should be helped in achieving their goal. You can not care more about something than the owner or individual who will beneift. YOU WILL BE PUNISHED!!!

Best of success to you,
Annette Lawrence, Broker/Associate
Remax Realtec Group, Palm Harbor, FL
727.420.4041
http://RealEstateMadeEZ.us

Clearwater, Dunedin, Palm Harbor Florida
Specializing in newer or well maintained, waterfront homes and condos
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Ron Thomas, Agent, Fresno, CA
Sat Mar 16, 2013
Don't you hate the people who keep on posting to a question?
Keepin' on! Keepin' on.
Where's Mack, anyway?
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Scott Godzyk, Agent, Manchester, NH
Sat Mar 16, 2013
JOHN I AGREE with you and have noticed a similar trend. There is more spam, scams and questionable blogs than ever. I hit flag but do not see a quick result in getting them removed promptly. Trulia simply does not care as much as they used about the agent who made this site what it is or maybe what it was. They have made changes that hurt instead of help the agents who are the most active and seem to want more blogs with a poorer quality than less and have a better quaility.
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John Souerbry, Agent, Fairfield, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
John - is this something you feel strongly about?
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Cindy Davis, Agent, San Diego, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
I agree with you John....there is not enough moderation and flagging of irrelevent topics
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Judi Monday,…, Agent, Green Valley, AZ
Fri Mar 15, 2013
Thankfully the post has been taken down. Yes there are crazy and inappropriate posts just as there are everywhere across the internet. I believe it is up to us to help police this site and make it one that consumers want to use--that's why when I run across posts that are not in line with the goals of the site, I take a moment to flag them.
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Russ Ravary, Agent, Commerce Township, MI
Fri Mar 15, 2013
I too have seen many crazy questions
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Mack McCoy, Agent, Seattle, WA
Thu Mar 14, 2013
There may be a "flag" button, but the post is still there . . .
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Sat Mar 16, 2013
Actually Annette I'm so toned deaf I've never even been invited to join a choir. LOL But I get your message loud and clear. Thanks for the HU on BOT'S. Until you enlightened me I had never heard the term.

I do understand that there will always be a certain degree of spam and junk mail that we, Trulia, nor anyone else for that matter, will ever be able to completely control. That is unless and until Google and the myriad public search engines belly up to the bar and figure out a way to deal with it.

Actually I agree wholeheartedly with you about the paying and contributing participants taking advantage of this site in the way that you described and that's the biggest part of my peeve. I do think Trulia cannot only fix the problem but they have a duty and obligation to address it for the benefit of its own integrity and credibility.

However, moreover there are thousands of RE professionals like us who have worked very hard for a number of years to keep Trulia as upscale and legitimately informative as is possible. Sure we all know that there are those who choose to self aggrandize and self promote or are only intit for the points.

But there has always been far more of us who have gone out of our way to reach out to those who were seeking sound advice, information and knowledge about making one of the most important decisions of their lifetime.

I'm grateful that quality folks like you have taken the time to weigh in on this issue. For this I feel this post a success. I'm only hoping that those in the position of leadership and policy making at the corporate level of Trulia will take heed. I'd hate to see what was once such a vital and responsible RE venue lose its credibility because of a few bad seeds.
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Sat Mar 16, 2013
No Ron. Actually the more feedback on this topic the better. I think we've had a reasonably open and positive dialog thus far. At least it has some folks thinking one way or the other. Most importantly it may get Trulia thinking about better and more efficient ways to keep some of these E Raiders off the site and good positive SEO moving forward.
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Sat Mar 16, 2013
Scott, thanks for your comment and while I agree whole heartedly with your observation about members posting spam even more disconcerting are the outsiders (non members) who are invading the site with ridiculous non sensical garble like the one I sites below. If you can figure out what that's all about dinner and drinks are on me.

We can attempt to police ourselves as Judy below has suggested within our own membership. However, when it comes to just clogging up our blog like the one below, that's something only Trulia can monitor. Thanks for your contribution.
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
BTW, John and others who have posted on this thread. The post I copy and pasted below and others like don't just appear once. It is posted several times over. This is what draws SEO down. Not only is it totally bazaar, ludicrous and inane it's totally unrelated to the Trulia platform.

I've seen folks get blasted by Trulia contributors and staff for using this site to promote far more pertinent and relevant things than this.
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
John, if you haven't read my comment to Annette you may want to do so. I'm not normally bothered by a few spams but I been noticing a proliferation of in on Trulia lately and many of them I feel could prove somewhat damaging to Trulia's overall SEO and website presence if not dealt with.

I've been told by my webmaster and a few other high ranking Internet authorities during some of the webinars I've attended that redundant posts can impact you SEO. What I've been observing lately (this year) is what appears to be an interesting trend.

If you haven't already take not at the bottom of every series of questions and you will see what looks like another question which it sometimes is. But more often than not it's usually someone touting their wares or a completely off color post that absolutely no sense and has no congruity to this forum whatsoever.

Google picks up all these redundant algorithms and each and every time they are posted it negatively impacts SEO to some extent. Pure and simple that's my only concern. Hope this helps and thanks for asking.

Here's an example:

Plus females style recommendations: What not to utilize
Posted by Conorm Tioec, Los Angeles County, CA • Wed Mar 13, 2013

Shouldn't everybody knows whandbags to never put on? Have not we all watched those broadcast tv addressing the common sense rules; read all of the magazines and perused the latest assistance proposed by so-called authorities about the subject. Naturally, we've got. Probably, we have now done this over most. If you're like me, you have probably been left wondering, can you continue with the very same rules these girls who usually are not blessed with similar dimensions were? Do these rules apply at you? Or maybe you wonder, just when will a person provide us with some easy guidelines that you follow thandbags are certainly not relegating us to ugly, shapeless, black, or fade to the background clothing. On the bright side from the disappearing act are the ones bold prints thandbags seem to grow profusely across people in colors and flora not seen in nature providing a atlas of our own topography thandbags was improved left uncharted.

Do you in some cases wish someone would think about the numerous us that do not visit to the rack of size 0 to eight? If you watch these fashion makeover shows, do you wish thandbags only one in just about every 100 were someone that faintly resembled you? Whenever you approach the shops thandbags work to concentrate on clothing thandbags is the best size, do you need to begin to see the mannequin's really wearing clothing thandbags isn't pinned at the spine? A beachside lounge chair don't you wish thandbags in the department shops hidden within the back exactly where they sell Plus sizes the mannequins were truly dressed and accessorized in clothing thandbags you might find in thandbags percentage of shop. I only say yes to all of this.

Unfortunately retail, no matter if on-line or physical has not mixed up to the people of people who definitely are blessed with dimensions to the fuller side. We will have to trust our mirrors, our friends, one another, and a few sensible "rules". Listed here are mine for all those occasions, created through the years.

Day-wear

No fitness center shorts (unless you are when you exercise).
No stretch components (except Lycra the miracle enhancement)
No shinny supplies
No bulky or higher significant shirts
No ankle socks with fitness center shoes (once more, unless you are while working out or out walking for workout)
No spandex something (this is true all of the time, unless the spandex is surely an adder)
No sweats (except in a gym)
No huge flowers, animals, cartoon characters, or message t-shirts
No yoga pants (except at yoga class)
No pajamas or anything thandbags might be mistaken as lounge-wear (except in your house lounging)
No new sandals (except by the pool or beach)
No stretched out of shape sweaters
No torn jeans, no skinny jeans (they
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
Thank you Cindy. I think anyone who's observed this recent trend should be a little concerned.
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
LOL!! Ron, but I'm not a viking.
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Ron Thomas, Agent, Fresno, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
Thanks for falling on your sword;
we'll give you a Viking funeral!
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
Thanks Judi, I agree and I always do flag them as well. But once again the thing I'm most concerned about is the overall impact it will have on the Trulia site and the integrity it will lose to those who reach out to us for solid information and knowledge. Thanks for your positive comment.
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
A colonic Phil..........................?
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Fri Mar 15, 2013
Annette, LOL! Being the oldest of 5 and Father of 5 and almost a bakers dozen Grandchildren you're preaching to the choir on that one. But point well taken. However, you seem to be missing my point.

If you understand anything about Google Juice and SEO, which I'm sure you do judging from the level of achievement you've attained on Trulia thus far, then you would know that the more spam and garbage Trulia allows to be posted on its site the more it could negatively impact it's SEO.

I sluff off a lot of ridiculous and inane posts and comments. But when Trulia allows someone to post the same crap over and over again dozens of times it's not good for them or any of we contributors in the long run.

Let me try to put it out there a little more clearly if I can. What I've been seeing a lot of lately is at the bottom of a run of questions is what appears to be another question. But it's really not a question. It's a spam and it keeps being repeated over and over again. Sometimes dozens of times. Some of these spams are overt advertising and/or self promotion by other Trulia members.

However, many of them are totally off the wall, meaningless, sometimes garbled and run on words that don't mean anything that go on for paragraphs. This is not healthy for maintaining good SEO and lends to have a de minimus impact on a site's overall website presence. Any good website developer will attest to this.

All I'm trying to do is act proactively by alerting other contributors and hopefully and most importantly Trulia staff. I'm not the only one who has noticed this. If you dig a little deeper you will find a lot of Q/A comments from other very good members who are concerned about this and have reached out to Trulia staff as well.
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Phil Rotondo, Agent, Melbourne, FL
Fri Mar 15, 2013
This is much ado about nothing.
If you think this is "going way over the edge", you may need a colonic.
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Annette Law…, Agent, Palm Harbor, FL
Fri Mar 15, 2013
John,
I also have not and will not "Chime in" on the topic linked to your post.
However, I will suggest you are missing Sheryl point entirely.
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Remember when your mother told you to ignore your little brother. Her wisdom provided you the pathway to removing the emotional buttons from reach of your antagonist.
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The same is true on Trulia. A question or blog ignored dies in about 6.3 nanoseconds.
It is when other link to it, post comments on it, berate the writer...it is these actions that promote what you don't like into the spot light. Folks like yourself insure the success of exactly what you don't like.
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IT IS YOUR ACTIONS, not that of the writer that is the significant catalyst. Hear again the words of your mother...."Just ignore them."

I would add, caring more about something the the owner is always a bad idea. Such good deeds will not go unpunished.

Find or create another forum and invite is all to join you there.

Best of success to you,
Annette Lawrence, Broker/Associate
Remax Realtec Group
Palm Harbor, FL
727.420.4041
http://RealEstateMadeEZ.us

Scotsdale Bluffs, Dunedin Home Tour
http://youtu.be/KTuVUxNDpOQ
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Thu Mar 14, 2013
Sheryl, in fact I don't recall you chiming in on that question. You may want to read a few of the comments before you rush to judgement.
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Thu Mar 14, 2013
Promoting something I don't agree with? You've got to be kidding. This kind of garbage is ruining this platform. I'd strongly suggest that you peruse the following link before making such impulsive and brash remarks:

http://=www.trulia.com%2Fvoices%2FAgent2Agent%2FShould_Trulia_allow… target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.trulia.com/voices/Agent2Agent/Should_Trulia_allow…
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John Arendsen, Agent, Leucadia, CA
Thu Mar 14, 2013
Oops! The link in my question was an error. Here's the right one:

http://www.trulia.com/discussion/Home_Buying-plus_females_st…
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