I am currently an active salesperson and looking at changing to a referral agent. Will I still have access to mls if I change? Help is appreciated. J

Asked by jeanne wiley, Jersey City, NJ Sat Feb 9, 2013

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Donald Mituz…, Agent, Chappaqua, NY
Tue Feb 12, 2013
This is quite interesting. I didn't know there was a license type called referral agent in NJ. We'll bust my britches sure enough there is. See the drop down for license type on the state web site at https://www16.state.nj.us/DOBI_LicSearch/recSearch.jsp Although I'm not from NJ, I would think someone would have to be an active agent to have access to the MLS. In our local mls, it is Realtor owned and in order to have access (other than admins) you have to be a Realtor and pay all the dues. No sense being considered a referral agent if you have to pay $400 a year in dues.

Don
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thank you for your supportive words!
all the best!
Flag Tue Feb 12, 2013
exactly - you are correct...there is no access to an mls without membership in all three of the following - a local board, the NJ Assoc. of Realtors and the NAR. I am sure it is the same where you are!
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Debra (Debbi…, Agent, Livingston, NJ
Tue Feb 12, 2013
Donald, I am surprised that a simple question has turned into a continuing saga, but, you are correct - a "referral" agent cannot have access to the MLS - they can't join it, or sign on unless they happen to be an admin - the question from Jeanne had nothing to do with her becoming an admin or office staff member of any kind - she asked about switching her license, and asked if she can have ACCESS to the MLS as a referral agent.

She cannot!

Jeanne - here are the number of 2 major MLS's in the state - feel free to verify that what I said is true.

Garden State 973 898-1900
NJMLS 201-387-1150

As a point of information, Donald, this type of license became effective as of July, 2011 - so it is a fairly new license status in NJ. It came about as a result of our "new" continuing education requirements (we were probably one of the few remaining states to finally require CE).
The agents who did little business, or wanted to retire, wanted to keep their licenses active, but not be required to take CE courses..........so the state came up with this "referal" status, eliminating the need to obtain the 12 credits.
Referral agent licenses are considered "active", by the state, but restricted as to what they can and can't do.

Jeanne- here is a link to everythig you will want to know about your new status as a referral agent.

Best wishes to you!

http://www.state.nj.us/dobi/division_rec/licensing/referrala…
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Debra (Debbi…, Agent, Livingston, NJ
Mon Feb 11, 2013
Andrew - rather than banter with you....call Garden State MLS, which you belong to, and ask them if a referral agent can pay for membership in, or have agent "access to" the MLS in any shape, way or form.

The answer is an emphatic "absolutely NOT" (just got off the phone with them, as even though I knew I was right, I always like to verify anything I say online)

It is against their rules to use any memeber's ID number to sign in, too, and only full.y active agents can join...........so the only access a referral agent can have is the same one the public has - it's not the agent/member sign in - it is filtered for the public.

their number is:

973 898-1900
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Debra (Debbi…, Agent, Livingston, NJ
Sun Feb 10, 2013
NO Andrew............ that is wrong advice!

One cannot be a member of the MLS and be listed as a referral agent - not even "for their own use", whatever that means.

They can access the public's MLS sites, as can anyone can.

In my company referral agents only pay their licensing fee every year, which I believe is $100.

To be able to access the MLS, as an agent, they would also have to pay for NAR and NJAR and local board participation, AND be subject to the Continuing education rules...and be covered by some sort of E&O.
The costs would be over $1,000 a year which is why many inactive agents choose the refferal agent status.
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Yanoska Diaz, Agent, Miami, FL
Sat Feb 9, 2013
I am figuring you are referring to voluntarily inactive status, if that is the case you will not have access to the MLS. As far as continuing education is concerned you do have to comply as anyone else.
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As an FYI - in NJ, which just started implementing CE classes last year, a "referral" agent is not repsonsible for any continuing education requirements, as they only refer consumers to active agents and are not supposed to have any interaction beyond that.
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Maria Dewaik, , Jersey City, NJ
Sat Feb 9, 2013
As a referral agent, you will not have access to the MLS or be able to actively show, or sell properties The only thing you can legally do is refer to someone who is an active agent or broker. Hope that helps.
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Annette Law…, Agent, Palm Harbor, FL
Mon Jul 15, 2013
Jeanne excellent choice.
Professionals like yourself, who choose to seek information and verify the same, are on a solid foundation for making very important decisions in the future. Through your question you are able to identfy several 'go to' pros who have demonstrated a profound understanding of the New Jersey real estate market and an exceptional grasp on business cultivation. You will find them, as so many professionals are, willing to help you grow through the many phases of your business.
Congrats and best of success,

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Palm Harbor, FL
727.420.4041
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Ben, , Elizabeth, NJ
Sun Jul 14, 2013
No you will not get access to the GSMLS please referrer to the following link related to your question. Perform a search for referral. However it reads as followed: "A Referral Agent, as defined by New Jersey real estate regulations, shall not be deemed a licensee hereunder."

http://forms.gsmls.com/Rules/RulesRegs.pdf

Much Success!
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Tue Feb 12, 2013
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jeanne wiley, , Jersey City, NJ
Tue Feb 12, 2013
Thank you all for your input.
I didn't realize that this simple question would create such discussions. Now that it is during the week (not Sunday), I had the chance to call Garden State MLS and they advised me that I do not have access to MLS if I changed my license to a Referral Agent status. I have decided to continue as a salesperson and will take the required classes. End of story. Jeanne Wiley
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I think you're making the right move Jeanne. The market is changing drastically as things are really picking up.
Flag Tue Feb 12, 2013
Good luck Jeanne! No idea why that other person was so misinformed, and made this such a big deal by insisting he was right - glad you found out for yourself!
I am still finishing up my CE classes - good luck with yours!
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Debra (Debbi…, Agent, Livingston, NJ
Tue Feb 12, 2013
Thanks for the feedback Mack!

To clarifyy something that Andrew said, which may be the cause of his confusion - yes, administrators-processors - ie: non-agent office staff - can (for GSMLS) fill out a special application and apply for limited access membership to the MLS for purposes of editing and inputting office listings - this type of access is limited to 2 processors per office.

It has nothing to do with referral agents.
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Hate to say it Andrew, but it looks like you're backtracking. Your own words "As a referral agent you can still have access to the MLS for your own use." It's obvious this is not true. The question had nothing to do with office staff. Debbie was correct. Perhaps in your overzealousness to answer the question you didn't read the answers before you. It might be a good idea next time. If you don't know the answer, maybe you should find out before answering. I didn't know there was such a thing as a "referral agent", but I went on the state site and found the correct information. Before you lead another agent to slaughter like you did with Debbie I think you should have your facts right.
Flag Tue Feb 12, 2013
Debbie you are the one that has been confused because you keep talking about membership when I have been talking about access. so as you now finally understand that a referral agent can have access to the MLS as a non agent office staff.
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Mack McCoy, Agent, Seattle, WA
Mon Feb 11, 2013
Washington State does not have this status, and neither does the Northwest Multiple Listing Service.
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Jennifer Fiv…, Agent, Red Hook, NY
Mon Feb 11, 2013
Why would you need access to the MLS if you are not active? For access you would have to pay the required fee.

Keep in mind some companies will have a separate company for referral agents and in that case you might not be allowed access to the MLS even if you want to pay the fee.
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Debra (Debbi…, Agent, Livingston, NJ
Mon Feb 11, 2013
well mack, all that is involved is paying $100 a year to renew your license...at least in my company.

Most who go on referral aren't expecting to make any substantial amount of money - some of them weren't making money even when "active", but it can't hurt to have the ability to make a referral if the opportunity presents itself - if your friend asks you if you know of any agents............and.... for those who were active and productive in real estate, and now want to take it easy, or retire, it is a way to help direct past clients, if they reach out to you, to someone you know and trust.

For $100 a year - why not?
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Debra (Debbi…, Agent, Livingston, NJ
Mon Feb 11, 2013
so now I am curious - Mack, Yanoska - in your states, there is no status similar to NJ's "referral' agent or inactive, or whatever you want to call it where you can be paid a referral fee, but have no other obligations?

You either have to be active , with all the associated costs, or ........bye bye?
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Mack McCoy, Agent, Seattle, WA
Mon Feb 11, 2013
So, how much business does a "referral" agent really pass?

I think this is funny, because so many active agents have such a difficult time with lead generation; it's hard for me to believe that there are enough inactive agents generating so many leads that it's worth their while to maintain a license!
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Debra (Debbi…, Agent, Livingston, NJ
Mon Feb 11, 2013
Jeanne - this is very simple to clarify - simply ask your Broker.........or..... call your MLS - like I just did
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Andrew Tisel…, Agent, Clifton, NJ
Mon Feb 11, 2013
Debbie Read and understand the questions and answers before responding
1. Please stop responding to my answers when you do not read them
2. You are the one talking about Membership
3. Jeanne and I are talking about Access.
4. 1st you disagree with something I did not say and then say the same thing that I did
5. My Admin has Access and is not an agent.
6. Any referral agent or person can have access to the MLS.

also a referral agent does not have to take CE classes but will have an issue if they ever want to become an a realtor again. So it is advised to take the classes even as a referral agent.
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Debra (Debbi…, Agent, Livingston, NJ
Sun Feb 10, 2013
yep, Mack........with a referral agent status, you can be paid a referral fee (still has to pass through a broker) for passing on a name, but cannot engage in any real estate sales activities.
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Mack McCoy, Agent, Seattle, WA
Sun Feb 10, 2013
This is interesting . . . so, Debbie - in New Jersey, there's such a status as "Referral Agent?" Wow!
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Andrew Tisel…, Agent, Clifton, NJ
Sun Feb 10, 2013
As a referral agent you can still have access to the MLS for your own use.
You should not be talking to any clients about real estate you can only refer them to other agents.
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How many responses will it take for you to accept that you gave incorrect "advice"? I don't know why you would want to leave this post online for others to read instead of deleting it. You have been proven wrong, even by Jeanne, the person who asked the question!
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Debra (Debbi…, Agent, Livingston, NJ
Sat Feb 9, 2013
No, probably not access to the mls, as you're not paying for that membership - which( usually, to the best of my knowledge) would also include paying for state and national dues.

That's the benefit of being a referral agent - it's less costly, and you are not repsonsible for continuing education credits.

Best advice I can give?
Ask your Broker for clarification on this!
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