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Buyerineastb…, Home Buyer in San Ramon, CA

How are the new homes in Positano by Braddock and Logan? Has any body been there?

Asked by Buyerineastbay, San Ramon, CA Fri Aug 22, 2008

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I checked Salerno today. Their first release, none has been sold. Their Cantara is selling fast. Salerno is a bit over priced and many features (e.g. Patio or Balcony) are optional (cost more from base price). Salerno are priced from low 800s to just over 1mil. Its price is slightly higher to Windermere (not listing price, but actual sold price). To compete with Windermere, it has to be priced more aggressively. Our school is not as good.

I also checked Schaefer Ranch, the general feeling is that its price is way over priced. Even their employee are surprised by its inflated price. One 3,300 sqft model is listed for $930k. Same sized re-sale/REO homes in Dublin Ranch and Windermere are listed as low as $850k. Though it does have larger lot (10k sqft). However, west dublin's school is even worse. And one elementary is closing down. Schaefer Ranch is far west edge of Dublin, it is pretty remote and not convenient.
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I think it's sad that KB of all builders took over Braddock and Logan's development. In my opinion Braddock and Logan is a high quality home builder unlike KB. I grew up in one of the thousands of Braddock and Logan Townhomes built in Alameda. My Grandfather and his business partner owned several. I looked at what KB was building at Bella Monte and in my opinion the Braddock and Logan homes were much better. KB on the other hand I could write an entire book about my horrible experience on http://www.kbhomeproblems.com
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Jan 11, 2014
Braddock and Logan is not doing well financially. The Mayor of Dublin, Tim Sbranti, confirmed as much.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Jan 12, 2010
Dublin School Board voted to delay the construction of Kolb Elementary tonight. This is the second delay, and the state's finances will not get better, so Kolb Elementary will probably not get built in the foreseeable future. What that means for families with elementary school-age kids is that schools will be overcrowded. Some kids in East Dublin will be moved to Frederiksen, depending on how the boundary lines change.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Feb 10, 2009
Dear Buyerineastbay,

Hope you're having a great weekend! Yes, there are new homes at Positano - 2 communities:

2242 sq ft - 3027 sq ft approx

2747 sq ft - 3565 sq ft approx.

I would highly recommend visiting these 2 communities since they currently have some year end inventory ~ December 2008 timeframe - Just in time to get you moved in for the Holidays + great incentives on these December move in homes.

The Portofino homesite has great views from the Towers Room and all the 3 homesites available are in close proximity to the future park slated to be built out close to the Cantara community.

Also, nice cul de sac locations available at the Salerno community ready to move you in the December timeframe. Did I mention their Holiday Gift Package which promises to include the Washer, Dryer, Refrigerator? And incentive pricing on the homes!

If you're not already working with a Real Estate Professional, please give me a call at (925) 984-7671 for current information on the market in Dublin.

Thank you.

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0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Nov 16, 2008
I went to the grand opening. A lot of people showed up, but layouts of homes were ok the largest model was the best in my mind. Not to mention the highest priced. They tried to do too much with the smaller units and they felt like they tried too hard.
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0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Oct 27, 2008
Did anyone go to the Positano grand opening? What is the outlook? We were out of town, otherwise I'd go...
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Sep 16, 2008
Grand Opening Event
Saturday Sept 13th 11:00am to 4:00pm
Italian Summer Fest

· Catered Event with Italian Sodas, Flavored Coffees, and Gelato
· Prize Drawing for a 50” Plasma TV and Three $100 Gas Cards
· Reusable Grocery Bag Give Away
· See How Positano is Becoming a Special Destination
0 votes Thank Flag Link Wed Sep 10, 2008
I am surprised it is sold so fast. To pay $760k for a 2600sqft house, I would rather prefer this one:
It is much nicer with a lot of upgrade and "high ceiling" and come with a mature back yard on larger lot. Even this one is still about 5% overpriced.

And, the whole area will take years to build out. Early residents have to live in construction zone for a long time. Buyer are deceived by their model home which is packed with shiny upgrades.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Sep 6, 2008
As far as I understand about 5 sold (1 is for a low income family), 4 reserved. As usual the first release is the worst lots...
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Sep 5, 2008
Check out those REO's in Dublin Ranch. 3500 sqft TB houses listed around $850,000 with upgrades and built back yard. It will cost at least $100k more to purchase from Braddock , even higher in Schaefer Ranch. These builders need to be more realistic. Any update on how many units are actually sold (not just reserved).
0 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Sep 4, 2008
I think the asking price is around $286 per s/ft.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Sep 4, 2008
The sales manager at Cantara told me that Braddock won't do any negotiating because according to the builder they priced their homes so low that it should be sold at that price. For those who dealt with the builder already there were no counter offers and some offers have not been submitted by the sales people b/c they were way too low to start with. I see where the builder is coming from but negotiating it's in human nature. It's hard to come in to the office and grab the house for its full asking price...
0 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Sep 4, 2008
I checked out the Schaefer Ranch homes today, and I agree with Rouriel Noubini 100% -- the homes ARE way overpriced. There are two classes of homes on sale. The $800K homes are called Mesa Point, and the million-dollar homes are called Shadow Canyon. The Mesa Point homes are single-family homes, but Seeno applied townhome construction techniques like tall and narrow corridors throughout this project. All the bedrooms are smaller than one would expect, given the builder has over 2000 square feet to work with for each floorplan and the master bathroom tubs are all sized comfortably for only one person -- not two. In addition, the stairways are distractingly narrow. People would have to be anorexic to live in one of these Mesa Point homes.

The Shadow Canyon homes are much better designed, but they are way overpriced, especially when you can buy a Cantara home by Braddock & Logan in Fallon Village for $250K less on average. What bothered me the most about the Shadow Canyon homes is that the builder did not go for those nice interior finishing touches like decorative archways throughout this project. Also, the interior designers they chose did NOT do a good job with the color palette, furniture selection, and designer upgrades. As a result, the Shadow Canyon homes felt more like something out of Mountain House than a luxury home in Dublin.

I encourage everyone who is considering buying a new home in Dublin to check out both Seeno's Schaeffer Ranch and Braddock & Logan's Cantara in Positano. The dramatic difference between these two products is best appreciated in person.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Sep 1, 2008
Hi Buyerineastbay,
John M. Zukoski, the Around Dublin blogger got some numbers for us.

Capri (2242 sq. ft.): $713K
Aria (2663 sq. ft.): $756K-$763K
Montare (2674 sq. ft.): $765K
Portofino (3027 sq. ft.): $813K

John said these numbers are from about a week or two ago. Also, he saw a few reservations on units from the first phase already.

My impression is that these homes are bigger and nicer than Lennar's Sonata, and they are priced VERY competitively when compared to Toll Brothers' Milano and Lennar's Sonata. I don't like the look-and-feel of Sonata's exterior, because they look cheap to me; however, I do love the solar roofs. The Cantara homes are supposed to be eco-homes, because they use a lot of recycled material and employ building methods that minimize energy loss. Unfortunately, they don't come with solar roofs. These homes' exteriors have a Mediterranean feel, so they feel more distinctive when compared to the Sonata homes.

There is also another Braddock & Logan development nearby called Salerno, which is also part of Fallon Village. I won't be able to check them out until mid-September, so if you have more questions about these two Braddock & Logan developments, I'd email John and ask him for his opinions and impressions. John seems to know the East Dublin developments like the back of his hand, so I'd definitely pick his brain. Good luck.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Aug 22, 2008
Thank you Firenze for the information. What would be a fair price/sqft for these homes? How does these compare to Sonata by Lennar? I heard that Braddock is building a brand new elementary school here.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Aug 22, 2008
Hi Buyerineastbay,
I have walked through the models. The first one is on the small side, and the last one has a split-level master bedroom. All the lots are on the small side, but the square footages for floorplans 2, 3, 4 are all respectable. There should be around 75 homes in the Cantara community. I have not had the chance to check out the other Braddock and Logan community. The prices are very competitive (from low 700K). If you are on the market for a new home, I would definitely check them out.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Aug 22, 2008
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