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Bbd, Home Buyer in bron, ny

Why don't apartments in NYC have floor plans?

Asked by Bbd, bron, ny Tue Apr 1, 2008

expect much less knowing if I am really interested.
As it is the descriptions are pathetic and the photos show no spacial relationship.
I am expected to give people a commission for this?

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Most apartments in NYC do have floor plans. Every coop and condominium has an offering plan. The floor plans are usually in the offering plan. Many pre-war buildings have been gutted and renovated but room counts and layouts will usually be listed according to their original configuration. The room count is determined in the offering plan not by any marketing or advertising. A one bedroom apartment with a wall constructed might be advertised as as a two bedroom apartment by an unethical broker or seller but it is legally still a one bedroom apartment. When purchasing a renovated apartment your attorney should make sure all the renovations were legal.
2 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Apr 5, 2008
Mitchell Hall, Real Estate Pro in New York, NY
I can't speak for the broker representing the property you are interested in. But I agree a floor plan is important. On another note, I have seen properties where brokers are quoting one square footage and it is actually somthing totally different. Usually offerings plans should have the details you are looking for.
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1 vote Thank Flag Link Tue Apr 1, 2008
Hi Bdb!

All apartments in NYC have floorplans. It's just depends whether the agent uploaded it to their website or not :) If you are working with an agent to help you find your next home, they should be able to pull up any apartments floorplan for you.

My friend Doug Heddings from Prudential Douglas Elliman and author of True Gotham, has an excellent video series about NYC's mythical square footage......Please see the link below....
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0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Apr 25, 2008
One other thing I forgot to mention, when you are dealing with a COOP, don't expect to get a REAL measurement of the property, at best you will get a very good approximation. Coops are not obligated to give you Square Footage, Condos on the other hand have to.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Apr 25, 2008
Bbd, if you are looking at properties on NYTimes you wont find floor plans, when you go on a website of a Brokerage more often than not they will display a floor plan for an apartment. If you are working with a Broker they can also get you a floorplan for a unit from the listing broker. And I'm sorry, but if you are working with a broker who is trying to find you a home it's not his or her fault that the apartment you like doesn't have a floor plan, it's the fault of the broker who listed that apartment.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Apr 25, 2008
Always hire your own architect if you are really interested in the property (assuming this is a purchase). You should always do a rough estimate on your own before talking price. Apartment leasing services are pathetic in Manhattan. Brokers try to charge both lessee and lessor and normally never disclose this to the lessee. Rule is you gotta ask for anything that you feel is critical. Failure to provide floor plans is typically to make it harder to measure your PSF cost. When they do provide area measurements, always ask how it is measured (BOMA, gross, usable, etc.). Even thought the seller pays the fee, it's your cash that is actually making it possible, so you pay the fee, make sure you get the service.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Apr 3, 2008
some properties do t have floor plans. you have to some how obtain it from the nyc building dept.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Wed Apr 2, 2008
Bbd, You're right to expect better service for your money! Afterall, you're the BUYER! You're the one forking over a ton of money--a chunk of which will find its way into the pockets of brokers, agents, lawyers, title closers, the tax man, appraisers, engineers, mortgage brokers, etc, etc.

IMO, floorplans w/true measurements, an accurate and detailed property description, quality photos (and even a video walk-through) should be available "on demand" to all prospective buyers. Why not?

BTW: Some agents do provide this level of service. My Douglas Elliman colleagues send me their NYC listings and most do these things and more.

GerryV (vazquezgerry@yahoo.com)
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Apr 1, 2008
Buyers don't pay commission, sellers do. Assuming buyers paid commission, though, you would buy an apartment without a floor plan if there were no commission involved?
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Apr 1, 2008
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