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#1,  in San Francisco Bay Area

I would never give anyone a thumbs down.

Asked by #1, San Francisco Bay Area Thu Aug 30, 2007

There are no bad questions and there are no bad answers. What do you think about that?

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There are instances where TD is appropriate. 1) Obvious and blatant spamming or 2) Erroneous info that could mislead. TD is not appropriate when it is a matter of professional difference of opinion. What works in one market does not always work in another. (i.e. Are public open houses valuable for the seller?)

There are some questions that are not well crafted, but these are the exception and not the norm. It is also reflective of our customer base, our fellow agents, and our biz. So, Trulia is real, and that is a very good thing.

I get slightly and momentarily annoyed at answers that seem to be count builders. I view answers that say thanks, or show signs of support when a question seeks consensus as positive. If the true purpose is to say “thanks”, it is a gesture that should be welcome not shunned. BTW, I just did that. And, I really meant it. See Carrie’s Q on selecting locations and Patti’s answer.

While I don’t thumbs down an answer that appears to have no purpose other than securing a count, they ever so momentarily annoy me. Then, I remind myself that there are more important things to get rattled over and let go of it. I found Jeannette’s comments in this thread heartwarming.

I encourage all to be generous with their TU, as it will encourage members of the public to exercise their voting rights. The voting (both TU and BA) will take on greater value as Trulia acquires more mass. A TU is a little smile, and a TD is a bigger smack. Please smack carefully and only when well deserved.
6 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Aug 31, 2007
Deborah Madey, Real Estate Pro in Red Bank, NJ
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This question and the subsequent answers are why I love love love my trulia! Patrick gives me a smile, Sylvia gives me great stat's and Carrie is (IMHO) the sweetheart of the group, with Jim bringing in a close second!

I am anxiously awaiting Deborah's answer as she brings in the ultra-professional yet always human side; and totally understand Steve & Heather's responses.

However, in answer to your question, I will give a thumbs down although it is extremely rare.

I don't like answers given just for the numbers game & the obvious spammers...
5 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Aug 31, 2007
I totally disagree and I totally disagree. - I will allow that the consumer can ask away, use Borat style grammar , syntax, and spelling.... and I'm okay with that. Pros have responsibility to appear to be competent and knowledgeable. Further we should adhere to our professional code of ethics and to the Trulia community guidelines. - I give you a thumb up for the provacativeness of your question, though I disagree with your opinion.
5 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Aug 30, 2007
Jim Walker, Real Estate Pro in Carmichael, CA
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I Totally agree with you, at this new site I found http://www.Realtor.com They Don't use thumbs at all. Unless you
are giving a thumbs up or a thumbs down, you never really think about your thumbs. That's what they say at http://www.fsbo.com. I know a guy who had his thumbs removed, because they looked to much like his big toes, you can see the video at my web site http://www.ITSRealEstateAZ.com while you are looking for your next home. I hear in Estonia they take your thumbs for a Rebate. When you give a thumbs down on trulia you actually use your index finger. What the question?
4 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Aug 30, 2007
Mr.P, Other/Just Looking in Arizona
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Hi Ed:

There is no bad question as far as I am concerned; you must have missed this thread about the bad questions

http://www.trulia.com/voices/Using_Trulia/How_many_incoheren…

And Jim's point is -, which I whole heartly agree with Jim that we are PROs, or at least we want to be perceived as PROs; so we should act and sound like one.

When we go on Trulia to ask and answer questions, not only do we represent ourselves but we also represent the whole profession. Honestly, Realtors are not rated much higher than used car salesman from consumer's perspective; and we are trying very hard to change that to be a professional and well respected field.

In addition to what Jim said and some of the really thoughtless answers, I personally also do not like rude or mean answers, those are just not necessary.

Sylvia
4 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Aug 30, 2007
Sylvia Barry,…, Real Estate Pro in Novato, CA
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Ed I have to somewhat agree with Steve & Heather team .... there is no bad answer or question when it is genuine. we are all different, our clients all have different needs and we have all experienced different situations....... yes we should always be professional and respectful, but that doesn't mean that we should lose our personailty for the sake of what others.... we cannot be all things to all people all the time ....but we can always be ourselves, help to the best of our knowledge, learn along the way and laugh at our mistakes and share them.... we all fell and scrapped our knees but you learn and keep going ( hopefully)

I personally think the thumbs up and down isnt a big deal and pay little attention to it.....
thats wy its called " Trulia Voices" it would be boring if we didnt incorporate our own experiences into our answers and always agree with each other...
3 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Aug 31, 2007
Ed,
First of all, thanks for asking the question. I am enjoying the banter! Second, I don't give out thumbs down lightly. If someone gets a thumbs down, it is my way of saying I strongly disagree. On the flip side, a thumbs up is a strongly agree! The forum is designed to give both aspects. The thumbs up and down are anonymous, although I have had some email me and tell me why they gave me a thumbs up, or ask me to elaborate on my response.
p.s. I just heard an egg timer!
Patrick, sometimes you make me laugh! Sylvia, I did not know we were ranked that high! Are we ranked higher than the used car salesman? I guess we got this rep from the day of "the buyer beware". It isn't like that anymore. We work equally hard for both buyers and sellers. I have saved clients from purchasing a home that had issues. I am sure all of you have! We should be getting rewards for this stuff!
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3 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Aug 31, 2007
Sorry, Patrick, if I offended you; and don't take things personally - did I sense that? - I certainly did not mean that.

I have to say you are a sharp dresser; didn’t know that you live in a desert. We have near 100 degrees last couple of days here, you don’t see me wear suites and I am complaining about how hot it is!

Thanks for your concern :-), but don’t worry, I actually don’t quite worry about my image, because I know what it is.

However, I have also heard and witnessed others, and I read (yes!); I think this is a great place to combat that image! There is a reason why Realtors are suggesting that there should be more stringent requirements in getting into the profession; and the importance of being knowledgeable, competent and adhere to ethics when we are Realtors.

This is a great forum to foster and promote the idea of Realtors; that we are a cut above others. So, I think we should keep it that way when we answer questions.

Sylvia
3 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Aug 30, 2007
Sylvia Barry,…, Real Estate Pro in Novato, CA
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Sylvia
not rated much higher than used car salesman from consumer's perspective;
I don't buy that at all. I would suggest that you put that thought out of your head. I mean that in a very respectful way.
I am very sarcastic, and very professional. Look at the way I dress, Sylviva I live in the desert.
My sarcasm puts my clients at ease which helps me communicate better with them. I really believe that my clients buy me for my Positive attitude, humor and professionalism. At least that is what I perceive.
Patrick
3 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Aug 30, 2007
Mr.P, Other/Just Looking in Arizona
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Is it me or this forum, questions and answers taking a turn for the worst. I have not been responding much to get involved in all the fighting, but it is getting a little out of hand. So everyone group hug.
2 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
Hi All:

I would refrain from making comments about a specific comment unless you know the background of the comments. What was the saying? - Unless you have walked in somebody's shoes, etc?

That's beside the point, but an important point.

However, the following is my answer for this question when it first came out, and I will rephrase that here.

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And Jim's point is -, which I whole heartly agree with Jim that we are PROs, or if we want to project the image of bing PROs; we should act and sound like one.

When we go on Trulia to ask and answer questions, not only do we represent ourselves but we also represent the whole profession.

Honestly, there are enough misconception about Realtors already. A lot of good Reatlros are being dragged down by questionable realtors. If we don't work hard to protect our own image and present a professional and respectable image, who will?

I am not saying I am perfect and I make mistakes, but I try.

In addition to what Jim said and some of the really thoughtless answers, I personally also do not like rude or mean answers, those are just not necessary.

I think most of the PROs have contact info on Trulia. You should be able to reach them through that.

Thanks for listening,
Sylvia
2 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
Sylvia Barry,…, Real Estate Pro in Novato, CA
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I agree with Michael. The TD is a useless tool and has in my opinion been abused. If you disagree with an answer or have a problem with a question, you can say so in a post or send the poster an e-mail. Just clicking on the TD is lazy and cowardly and accomplishes nothing (well maybe the poster who gets the TD will blame someone else for the TD). I have in the past suggested that TDs should only be possible with an explanation, but of course that could be abused as well. I suspect those who give TDs don't understand that there's no concequence as nobody keeps track of how many TDs someone "earned."

Just curious, what protected class does Christopher belong to? How do you know that Gone Fishing is to blame for the TDs that you may have been handed? Do you have access to the Trulia records? Please note, any TDs you may receive for your post are not from me.
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2 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
Ute Ferdig -…, Real Estate Pro in Newcastle, CA
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I too only give TD when it is a question or answer of dubious, "Moral Fiber"!! It is a cute, little feature on Trulia which accomplishes nothing as there is no accountability. I think I would allow TD/TU ONLY if you explain WHY!
2 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
You know what there is no bad answer or question when it is genuine. I agree Ed. BUT I expect more of agent or Realtor® answers and abiding by certain rules when dealing with consumer questioning. Agent to Agent banter, is usually much more laxed, but that doesn't mean any less eyes are on the responses and I don't want to inhibit consumer responses with aggressive language. My husband is eternally positive and I am the sarcastic one (with also a good heart), but I have realized that because you are relatively faceless in this environment, this e-environment you can only guess what perception is on the other side of the keyboard. I cherish the freedom of opinion here for learning and because it opens up my mind, but offensive material doesn't belong here. I never give down thumbs lightly and rarely do, but I have hit that mark on instances. If someone down thumbs you because solely they "don't like your answer" that is not right and that bugs me ... The solicitors are usually tend to be new to the system and with a solid 3 "thumbs down" they hopefully learn. So if we admit here, do we go on some list? "Well these people in Roseville ... " ;-) Oh I love thumbing up for solid answers. People work so hard on some of their answers and they deserve it.
2 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Aug 31, 2007
Steve Ostrom, Real Estate Pro in Roseville, CA
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You did not offend me, Your answer was before my sarcasm.
you may have offended used car sales men though.
Have a good night
I give you two thumbs up
2 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Aug 31, 2007
Mr.P, Other/Just Looking in Arizona
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OK. So I will buy that. I have encountered "types" here that I was aware were trying to sell something to us or to buyers and sellers on the site. But you have to admit it is obvious.

It doesn't take much to shut them down. You just need to expose them.

The rest of the Q&A that goes on here is really very valid.

I already learned that this is not the place to solicit leads. This is a place to share ideas.

If someone calls you as a result of your input... that is a bonus. I have received 4 such calls.

If you try to sell here, buyers and sellers will already have your number. These people are intelegent people and they can see a salesman a mile away. It's not brain surgery that we are doing here. It is not rocket science.
2 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Aug 30, 2007
Christopher--Lighten up! Don't take yourself, a TD or this siet so darn seriously. I think this is the first time I ever saw the word "hate" in a post.
1 vote Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
Oh, there are bad answers and good answers that are not popular.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
Hate is a strong word and hate is what is practiced by many of the top voices here. Sorry to some of you answering here but to the remainder (You know who you are and...if the shoe fits..) The little "gangs" here are fun to watch playing their little tricks but, you are no different than street thugs. It may seem cool to be part of the "group" and you may seem like you are above all but you are doing nothing for the community. This really could be a great tool but, most are sitting in their little sandbox and peeing in it at the same time. Then, when they finally have to leave because of the stench, they will say "The web dosent work for marketing".
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
Looks as if our TD bandit is striking again? what ever happened to freedom of speech?
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
Pam Winterba…, Real Estate Pro in San Ramon, CA
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I don't think that you see me whining about TD's and dont care about them in the least yet, does not take a forensic scientist to see a negative response posted, followed immediately by Td's or TU's for that matter. The wraith of some is not TD's or Tu's...they have no meaning at all. Take a look at actual comments that are obviously driven by hate. I have done nothing to harm you Ute and have only been supportive and do not have to explain or provide a list of protected classes to a card carrying member of the California BAR.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
Judging form your actions, you do not practice what you preach. You seem to pick on protected classes of individuals for some reason. I know, as I am also a victim of your wraith.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 12, 2007
OK. SO what's your point?
0 votes Thank Flag Link Thu Aug 30, 2007
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