I am not at all aware of the rental laws and first time looking for an apartment in states.
I dont know where does he got the rental quotes from and how does it works. All I knew that by the time he told me rent I knew its lesser than that as I already discussed with the management company.
I don't have any problems in paying the any fee he mentioned if its ethically and professionally I really owe him.. ......Which I am not able to understand still :-$
"-and still very unclear as to why the different monthly rent quotes"
A question perhaps for the Agent or whoever placed the amount on the MLS or the Management Co...
In my opinion not a Question the Client should responsible for answering.....
My Question would be why would any consumer who is "on the fence" about using or trusting Agents that reads this discussion decide to use an Agent?
"Therefore, shame on you for not knowing that the agent need not discuss commission with the lessee. The commission is none of the lessee's concern.
What do YOU do for a living?"
LOL...Trulia isn't a Lead Generator...it's a Lead De-Generator...
Rock on Pros
Where in this did you get it was the Management Co. that jacked up the Price? It was the Agent who quoted a Higher Price and the Agent who did not make Fees Commission cost clear......based on the info provided here
So the only responsibility an Agent has is to look at the price on the MLS, show the Rental and then get paid...No need to discuss Fees or Commission..Yeah I'm gonna rush out an use an Agent now ;)
Kareem...A big......... HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!! ...to you it seems
I still fail to see why the "Client" has any need to be "upfront" that they know the actual Rent amount...(Would that knowledge not help a Client determine if an Agent is being "upfront" Honest/Trustworthy?
The most important point in my opinion is IT IS THE AGENT that has the Burden of being upfront about Fees/expenses and to sure they are understood by anyone they intend to charge a fee or commission before signing any papers or showing any rentals/properties?
Is that not the Truth?
There was no intent to deceive, mislead or cheat the Agent here (In fact the client still used the Agent even though they knew the rent and had already talked to the Management co. and as a courtesy or to be fair still went with the Agent to look at a Rental not knowing it was the same one, not even aware of any necessity to be "upfront")........ but the actions of the Agent?
If they did not make fees and commissions "upfront" before the signing of papers or showing the Rental then I don't care if GOD or the MLS was the source of the Rent amount they quoted, they did not do their job IMO....
The missing detail here is where did the agent come up with the rental list price--if the agent quoted the MLS listing price, he/she did his/her job and not sure why management would have a different number to begin with, and was management aware that an agent was involved--both parties could be at fault here, and yes, the one that suffers is the client; but it appears that no one was upfront with anyone from the very beginning--
If the agent quoted the MLS listing price as he/she should have done, he/she did his/her job--what is unclear is why management would have a lower price to begin with, unless they quoted less in order to avoid negotiating. Therefore, the agent may be the procuring cause--and we do have missing details, how was it left with the agent after the showing, were offers discussed, etc.
I think the one who should be told they shoulda been upfront is the Agent.....
The Agents supposedly has some type of obligation to be upfront don't they?
Why does the
Client have an obligation to tell the Agent they already know the Rent the Management company wants?
The only reason in this scenario for that I can think of is so the Agent can be warned in advance that this time they need to be upfront about fees/commissions ect...
It appears the AGENT withheld the more important info....Cost to the Client!!!!!!
My Opinion...If everything you've said is true then have nothing to do with that Agent, if the Agent bothers you in any way then do whatever is necessary to force them to stop..Talk to their Broker, the management company, take out an ad in the local paper, file complaints, stand in front of their office and tell every passerby what happened...Do whatever it takes..
Until Agents like that one are weeded out of the Industry it will always be thought of by many as an Industry full of Dishonest Agents just out to make a easy buck..
Right or Wrong that's what people will think because when an Agent act that way other Agents will suggest YOU handled it wrong...
If your story is factual then YOU did nothing wrong...period
Would she still owe commission? It sure doesn't sound like the agent was working on her behalf if he inflated the rent to include his commission.