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Forms of Egress (exit) for a bedroom

Asked by Gladhands, 60637 Thu Apr 5, 2012

Does a second exit through a bathroom and out a separate door (in that bathroom) count as egress for bedroom definition?
I am creating a bedroom that has no exterior window. It has a door, and it has a second door that enters a bath that also exits into a public area.
The walls are glass from four feet up and there is a source of heat.

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Since the zip code you have listed is within the City of Chicago I will assume this question pertains to a property within the City limits.
A bedroom does not require a dedicated egress path to the exterior. Granted you have to be able to get out of the bedroom. Presumably the same way you came in. However, it does not need a direct path to the exterior of the apartment or structure.
8% light / 4% ventilation ARE required for a compliant bedroom. Whether that requirement is met either through the use of a window or other means is another matter. A window is obviously the most common source. However, borrowed light and mechanical ventilation are acceptable alternatives under the Code.
Since you are creating this bedroom, i.e. rehab/new construction/alterations to an existing structure you will also have to meet other requirements such as minimum size, heating and electrical.
You can have a compliant bedroom in a basement in the City and in the burbs. There are various requirements of course that need to be met. In the burbs basement bedroom requirements tend to be stricter.
There will be variations on the requirements based on what type of building you are in. Single family, highrise, etc.
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You dont have to have a window or have a closet to be a bedroom. As long as there is some way out, they will count it in Illinois. They got rid of the closet law because of all the houses that were built without them. It 100% does not have to have a window. It has to be above grade, meaning not in the basement and have some way of access. What you are describing here could work, no matter how terrible it sounds.
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A bedroom minimum requirements: 1. 9x9 with its own separate entry, no tendums, 2. closet inside or near outside, 3. must have a window and finally 4. heated.
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From what you have described, I doubt very much it will be seen as a "legal" bedroom, by either a building inspector or an appraiser.....

You didn't say what floor this would be located on.........if it's a basement, then for sure the answer would be no.

You need egress from the room itself, not via another room.
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My guess is that this would work, but it is best to ask your local code enforcement officer. And, if you are financing this, maybe the bank as well. They may have other standards
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Sorry that won't work. You need natural light & a means of escape thru a window for any bedroom.

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Thanks for the comment John....I believe the room and its glass wall/partition would only be about 25 feet from exterior windows and this natural light would be unobstructed..does that qualify? Regarding the window, there seems to be many competing ideas about weather one is needed...new loft conversions in the city often do not have windows..??
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A valid question, to be sure.
You probably have to ask your Building permit division; they are the ones who will make the final determination or refusal. This is not a case of asking forgiveness is easier than asking permission.
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