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auntiebk, Home Owner in Boise, ID

Estimate remodel costs for a 5 x 10 bathroom including subfloor? Suspect moisture from shower/bath weakend floor enough to loosen toilet.

Asked by auntiebk, Boise, ID Sun Feb 3, 2013

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I am a landlord and have faced this problem before. None of the experts addressed what I think is your biggest problem.... that is, what are you going to find when you open that floor up? I have had jobs where the joists below the tub were rotted away and the whole thing was opened up down to the crawl space! The clean up was immense, the job was just bigger than we planned on. So, I always look at any bathroom damage as potentially a BIG job.
(I have also purchased a triplex that I thought had some water damage under a nearly brand new bathroom; floors sagged - just a little - when you walked on them. I opened the floor, only to find that there had been a substantial fire in the bathroom [hence the 'remodel'] --- They had 'repaired' the joist with four 2x4s nailed all over the joist, they replaced wooden sub-floor with layers of cheap particle board --- then put beautiful tile over the top! Well at least I caught it quick-before the particle board swelled and crumbled.]

So, if it is just a little (new) water damage in just one small area. Your costs for a new floor, and repair (with labor) might be less than $600 in most of the country. However, if there is more damage and you need a contractor who must engineer something structural -- the price could go into $1,000's.

On the other hand you have no choice you must do it once you find this kind of damage. You can reduce the cost by handling the demolition and clean up and haul away. You can keep costs down with your choice in materials. Do shop around -- you would be shocked at what is out there cheap.

So - happy trails to you
Louise
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Dec 29, 2014
I really liked your tip to shop around, even if you have to get a remodel done because of damage to the floor and subsequently, the floor joists if the bathroom isn't in the basement. A 5 x 10 bathroom isn't too big though, so hopefully the original poster will be able to find some good deals for the repairs. I wish them the best of luck! http://www.kentconstruction.ca/services.html
Flag Mon Apr 6, 2015
I think level of remodeling is also a major factor for cost estimating. A basic remodeling does not cost much but if yo go with dynamic full remodeling, then definitely it will be costly. A basic remodeling costs around $7000 to $13000. Not exactly but near to this.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Dec 23, 2014
It all depends on what materials are going to be used. Another big factor is the company that you choose to do the remodel. My friend had a bathroom remodel where he revamped the entire bathroom with brand new things. It turned out to be pretty expensive but worth it. http://www.springerconstructioninc.com/services/additional-s…
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Nov 21, 2014
I apologize for my delay in responding. I broke my leg last last week and it has slowed me down somewhat. As the others who have responded have noted, the cost would depend on the scope of work. If you can answer the following questions, I can provide you with a preliminary estimate:

How old is the home? If it were built before 1978 and the work will disturb more than 6 square feet of painted surface, the work would be subject to the Federal law requires contractors that disturb painted surfaces in homes, child care facilities and schools, built before 1978 to be certified and follow specific work practices to prevent lead contamination. You can dowload a copy of the EPA's "Lead Safe Certified Guide to Renovate Right" publication on the Remodeling page of my webstie http://www.chuckmillerconstruction.com

What fixtures are currently installed?
- Tub (Fiberglass or Iron?)
- Shower (Fiberglass or tile surround? Glass shower doors?)
- Toilet
- Vanity (How many sinks?)

Do we need to provide new fixtures?
- Tub / Shower
- Toilet
- Vanity
- Sinks / Faucets

The loose toilet could simply be the result of a rusted toiltet ring and not rotten subflooring. Is there any other evidence of possible moisture damage, i.e. buckled or loose flooring?

What is the existing flooring, i.e. vinyl, vinyl tile, ceramic tile?

If there is no evidence of possible moisture damage, do you want to replace the existing flooring? If yes, with what material?

Paint?

Light fixtures? Bath exhaust fans?

Mirror(s)?

Remodeling magazine just published their 2013 Remodeling Cost vs. Value Report. I just posted a link to the download on my homepage http://www.chuckmillerconstruction.com.

They estimate the cost of mid-range bathroom remodel at $14,367. It is defined as an update to an existing 5-by-7-foot bathroom, including replacing all fixtures to include 30-by-60-inch porcelain-on-steel tub with 4-by-4-inch ceramic tile surround; new single-lever temperature and pressure-balanced shower control; standard white toilet; solid-surface vanity counter with integral sink; recessed medicine cabinet with light; ceramic tile floor; vinyl wallpaper.

Our experience has been that we can usually do the work for much less.

You can respond here or email me at chuck@chuckmillerconstruction.com
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Feb 8, 2013
I think it depends on the severity of your remodel. I would have a contractor come in and give you an estimate of what he thinks you're going to pay. This will probably give you the best idea of how much you're looking at. Good luck and I wish you the best on your remodel! http://www.theremodelerpro.com/remodeling/
Flag Tue Nov 18, 2014
Thank you for your question. We are unaware of any water damage to the master bath or anywhere in the home. Please contact me if you'd like to see the home in person.
-BarbaraAnn Williamson, Realtor, Keller Williams Realty Boise
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Feb 5, 2013
Many thanks to you all, you've given me lots to think about.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Feb 4, 2013
Quick background - I own a lot of rental property and have overseen or participated in many rehab projects. That being said, what is your goal? Do you want to have the flooring and subfloor replacd and the toilet reset (around $800). a completely new bathroom (as little as $2,500 if you are able to do some basic painting and finish work or $20,000 or more if you want a showcase bathroom). If you need the names of some good contractors or subcontractors, or just want some information on the process, feel free to call.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Feb 3, 2013
Oh, you can spend way more but I had the feeling this might be an older home and a basic remodel can be done.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Feb 3, 2013
Have a feeling Boise, Idaho may be less expensive than my area. I would expect to pay in the area of $5000.00 for a nice remodel.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Feb 3, 2013
Of course there are many factors to consider. Do you need to pull out a replace tub and/or surround or tile, what type of flooring finish, vanity choice, new toilet, etc, etc. it can cost as little as $800 all the way up to $2500 or more. I just completed one for $1500 which included new support for old tub, new tub surround, new toilet and new flooring (cut out and repaired subfloor damaged areas). This took just over two days in and out! I am both a realtor and a contractor and would be happy to give you my ideas. Jan Stanley - Mountain Realty - 208/407-9521
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Feb 3, 2013
Of course there are many factors to consider. Do you need to pull out a replace tub and/or surround or tile, what type of flooring finish, vanity choice, new toilet, etc, etc. it can cost as little as $800 all the way up to $2500 or more. I just completed one for $1500 which included new support for old tub, new tub surround, new toilet and new flooring (cut out and repaired subfloor damaged areas). This took just over two days in and out! I am both a realtor and a contractor and would be happy to give you my ideas. Jan Stanley - Mountain Realty - 208/407-9521
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