Steve, Renter in New York, NY

What parts of Harlem are up and coming?

Asked by Steve, New York, NY Sun Oct 16, 2011

a broker told me to check out the East side - i took a subway to 125 and walked all up and down Lex, 3rd, 2nd. until i got to 103rd. i think i saw 1 cafe, total. i don't know what he was talking about. I also would not feel so safe at night. i thought the west side was more happening. is it possible to get a 1 bdrm in morningside heights for less than 1700$? should i be looking in Washington Heights? Inwood? I'm an artist/writer and prefer organic groceries.

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Edith Karoline Jasser ’s answer
You need to connect with an experienced Realtor, experienced in rentals and having lived in the city himself or herself for a long time, to know the various neighborhoods well, there is really not directing you in one direction or another, you will have to explore them on your own as everyone's needs are different and Realtors by law really cannot suggest this neighborhood being "better" than another...
But when working with an experience Realtor who will know your price range and size of property to rent, will be able to show you the units that seem to get you more property for the rental price and then as you go to look at those properties you will see if the areas have what you are looking for, restaurants, stores etc.

So work directly with a local Realtor with experience in rental units.

good luck to you!
Edith YourRealtor4Life and Chicago&NorthernIllinois Expert
2 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Oct 17, 2011
Thanks, everyone for your responses. Ronnie especially, for the detailed points of interest and facts. also Elena for nailing down specific streets. i intend to scout out some of these areas.
1 vote Thank Flag Link Tue Oct 18, 2011
There's a lot of virtual steering going on here. Tsk, tsk tsk!
I understand everyone wants to help Steve, but really?

There is a great wealth of things that will cater to your comforts in the Harlem area. Take a walk along Frederick Douglas Boulevard from as low as West 103rd and 8th Ave, up past the circle at 110th, continue due north and keep going as far as your legs can take you. You will get a sense for how the areas change and the level of services as well.

North of 145th, you will find better value for your dollar in terms of space, but perhaps the services in the area will be somewhat lacking.

Further north in the 155th-181st areas known as Washington Heights, you will find the most space and quality for your dollar for sure. On Audobon Ave, there are places for $1700 and way less depending on the area, size and quality. From what you have described here in this post, it sounds like you may sacrifice some of that space for more services in the immediate area such as grocers, cafe's, restaurants and the like.

There is a Fairway was west by where the Cotton Club is off 125th St past the 1 train. There is also a "Best Yet" on Frederick Douglas that is in a much more convenient location than going all the way over to the river if you are not a serious trooper like that or it's just too damn cold when winter hits and you won't bike or cab back from way over there. If you lived on Tieman or LaSalle, then it's a short walk from that Fairway home.

Anyways, this is becoming a novel and to sum it up, I have lived all over NYC, in many different areas of Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens. Currently in "Hamilton Heights" Harlem. It's quite likely that I am the person Edith in Chicago was talking about. Then again, who knows! lol.

All the best and write us an update as to how things end up!
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Oct 18, 2011
Hi Steve. Great last sentence. You do mention "a broker" but I don't know if he's "your broker." Harlem prices can be tricky and availability scarce. It's always best to expand your target areas. I, as other have, suggest you work with a broker who knows the areas of interest for the best results. Good luck.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Oct 17, 2011
Consider working with an agent of your own, he/she will be your best guide; for any safety concerns, it's always a good idea to check with the local police department with all your questions, hear all there is to hear firsthand; also research areas of interest online, and do take the time to visit more than once and at different times of day. Unfortunately, real estate professionals are prohibited from steering, enticing a buyer to purchase/rent, or not, in specific neighborhoods....
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Oct 17, 2011
St. Nicolas Ave and Manhattan Avenue area around 118-120 streets is really nice and there are great grocery & health food stores, and plenty of restaurants. You can find good deals on rentals there now and will get a much bigger space for lower price than midtown or UWS. I just walked this neighborhood yesterday and really enjoyed it.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Oct 16, 2011
thanks. the broker also cited other "happening" areas like the 140's to 160's. again, East side. Is this Washington Heights? Would this be more desirable as far as quality of life, cafes, restaurants, etc? If so, what are some key streets to check out?
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Oct 16, 2011
West side of Harlem is where its at. Above the park on the west side. The east side will get there in another 5 years. Higher rents are pushing people out. To many Project building on the east side that are rent controlled and will keep the neighborhood down.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Oct 16, 2011
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