ashleypaesch, Home Owner in Fullerton, CA

is it possible to some way buy a second home and short sale our first home? Or even get a loan for the amount still owed once we sell the home?

Asked by ashleypaesch, Fullerton, CA Tue Feb 19, 2013

We currently have a 2 bedroom townhome and have 2 children with a 3rd on the way. We do not have enough space or enough bedrooms in our home and would like to sell our home and buy another. Unfourtunatley we still owe 160k on our home and they are currently only selling for 125-135k range. We would try and rent this home out but fear that it might not work out as planned and we might have to end up 'short selling' the home anyways. We currently have enough money to pay for this home and buy another, but thats only if we have the rental income as well. What are our options? Is this considered a hardship because we do not have enough room for all of us? We really need more space/bedrooms for our family, we were not planning on living here this long when we bought the home but did not expect the market to turn upsidedown.....

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Hi Ashleypaesch, If you have the funds to pay for two homes it is not considered a financial hardship.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Feb 22, 2013
Since your hardship is one of lack of space not financial, you probably will not qualify for a shortsale, especially if you have the money to buy another home. In any event, if you were able to shortsale the existing home the effect on your credit report would prevent you from buying another home for 2-4 years.

The best plan is to buy another home now that your finances are in good shape and rent the existing home. You may have some negative cash flow for a while but sooner or later it will work out because rents are rising and the loan is self amorzing. The loan on the new home probably will not allow rental income for qualifying purposes until it is "seasoned", usually a year. That may limit the size of the new loan. I have a good loan officer who can help you figure this out without any obligation. Call me if you have questions.

Bob McGee
Advance Realty Timonium
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Feb 19, 2013
Hello Ashley,

What is the bank that the property is being serviced by?

The reasons for hardship are INCOME REDUCTION, UNEMPLOYMENT, DIVORCE, MEDIAL, SELF-EMPLOYED (from Bank of America). If I am hearing you correctly, you only have enough money IF you were permitted to count the rental income for the exiting property. Most banks require you to have a rental history in order to count this income.

From the information you are providing, you may qualify for the Harp II loan. I would be happy to discuss your options with you and how I have been able to help others in your situation without committing loan fraud. I can be reached on my cell phone 202 573-6035.

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If you have not already been approved by a lender, I would be happy to run numbers for you to let you know how much you can qualify for.

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0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Feb 19, 2013
"Is this considered a hardship because we do not have enough room for all of us? "

no, it is not considered a a short sale is most likely not even an option for you

Truthfully, you are lucky in that your financial situation, from what you have shared, has not changed.....only your need to more space has're lucky you can make your payments and are not suffering a financial hardship

1. sell your home and come to the table with the 25,000'ish you need to pay off the loan and make yourself whole - then rent for the time being if you can't buy right away
2. rent out the house and rent elsewhere until you can afford to sell the first house and buy a new one
3. subdivide one of the rooms in your townhome to create a new bedroom if it is possible.....or do whatever you have to do to make it work for the time being
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Feb 19, 2013
I am sure that there are a lot of people out there who would trade places with you:
Many of the people who have lost their homes in the last few years, ended up homeless or depending upon Government help.
The HARDSHIPs that they faced were loss of Job, Medical Bills, Death in the family, etc.
NOT ENOUGH ROOM does not evoke much sympathy; particularly with Lenders.
We have seen, and continue to see, homeowners who can afford their Mortgages, but are simply Upside-Down and don't want to pay on a dead horse.

You basically have two choices:
You can weather the storm, and keep your townhouse: Buy some bunk beds and buck-up.
Or you can Shortsale the place, ruin your credit, and rent for two years, (at least).

I have seen too much of it; I wouldn't wish the latter or anybody!

Good luck and may God bless
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Feb 19, 2013

You should read this first. Buy and bail is the name for what you want to do. it is a form of loan fraud. I know it's not what you want to hear but it is the truth. Now could you find a lender who would allow this? Not knowingly. But would they turn a blind eye to it? It's a big lending world and things happen every day that shouldn't. but most banks and lenders are going to deny the loan if they even suspect buy and bail. Have you tried to refinance your loan to save money? You can't use the rent either unless you have 30% equity. I know you are stuck and I would speak to your elected officials on both the state and federal level. If they didn't have the equity requirement you could make a case with a lease and security deposit. Those rules have been in effect for years but it didn't always used to be that way and any changes done could be undone. You aren't alone in your situation so don't accept it without a fight but don't commit loan fraud also. I hope this was helpful.

Brent Mendelson
Senior Loan Officer
1ST Mariner Mortgage
Lending in all 50 states
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