Not necessarily, but you cannot count the un permitted addition to be used as part of the square footage when you put the property up for sale. Make sure you "disclose" this information to any potential buyer.
Some cities will require the unpermitted work to be torn down, but some may simply require you to bring the work up to code.
Some unpermitted work be GRAND FATHERED in. Meaning when is was added their was no code indicating it could not be done. In other words it may be illegal now but when it was constructed it was NOT ILLEGAL as the code against it was not yet on the books.
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If you do decide to bring it up to code, just be warned that it may not be possible to salvage depending on a bunch of issues:
- shear wall calculations (both of the porch and the house itself)
- nailing schedules
Being that the structure already exists, they may have to do intrusive and destructive inspections to determine how well it was built. For example, the concrete foundations used in permitted additions usually need rebar, doweling, anchors, epoxy to meet code. It is nearly impossible to tell if this was all done after the concrete is poured. For this reason, it can be a real pain to bring it up to code if an inspector didn't see it before hand.
Once you bring it to the city, you are on their radar and they literally have to follow up on it. Take some time to think about it before going down there.
I am not a contractor and am not qualified to advise on construction, I am nearly sharing my experience as a fellow homeowner and witness to other homeowner client stories. Find a licensed professional to best answer your specific questions.
Depends. Whatever you do don't go into planning and zoning and admit to a bunch of problems. Cities are cash strapped looking for homeowners to fine. Some improvements may or may not be grandfathered in.
I can give you the name and number of a retired County Building Inspector that now works with private homeowners to clean up these problems and keep costs to a minimum.
I once sold a property with over 200 code violations. Yes you can sell it as is. I can teach you how.
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The inspector will then inspect the improvements and note any necessary corrections. Once the corrections have been addressed the inspector will sign off on the permit and you're good to go. If there are not corrections to deal with he will sign off and your improvements will qualify for any appraisal. Hope this helps.
The short answer to your question is, yes you can sell it without tearing it down. Disclose to any potential buyer what you know to be true. Depending on what the porch looks like and how the work was done it may not be a big deal to a buyer. Each buyer has a different level of comfort with non-permitted additions and during the inspection period they can have the porch looked at more closely.
I would be more worried if the addition was a bedroom and bath with electrical and plumbing. Also as was mentioned you can go to the city building department and check to make sure there is not a permit that was pulled but not finalized and has expired. Either way you can ask for a re-inspection of the porch and maybe it can be approved.
Look at it from a different point of view, does the porch add value being enclosed or not? is it safe? Does it fit in the neighborhood or look out of place? If it makes more sense to leave it alone then I would say leave it alone and disclose it. Is it dangerous or just ugly and the house would look better without the porch enclosed then maybe you should do something with it. The level and amount of work is really up to you.
Brian Wilson, Realtor
From a lender's standpoint concerning future financing (if that's your worry). Please be advised that on Conventional loan programs, a buyer purchases the property as is. Now FHA contrary to what MOST lenders and realtor think, does not require a room addition or garage conversion etc be permitted in order to figured in or calculated in the square footage or value as long as the addition or conversion was completed in a "Workmanlike Manner" (not shoddy). Just thought I would add these comments if you were concerned with selling your property.
in can be fathered in, just depends on how well it was done to start with.
Then knowing what needs to be done you can decide on whether to bring it up to code if there are
violations, the building inspector from the village may also have a good suggestion one way or the
other, it really is all a question of can it be brought up to code, what is the expense and will it sell the
property better after having brought it up to code or is the expense too high, so that tearing it down
makes more sense. As you mention it seems to be a large porch addition, so it may add to the value
of the property as far as space is concerned, but you do not want to sell a property with a code violation as this may worry potential buyers.... Unless you can provide them with the information on the violations and at the same time with the estimate for the cost to bring it up to code, they may then want to consider and do the remedial work themselves....
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I sold a home recently where there was an old, permitted, enclosed patio, but I think it should have been torn out because it was eating into the backyard space too much.
I don't look back on this same Trulia posting for answers after mine.
Extra square footage that looks nice & which is done properly adds value to the house, you might consider the costs to get it permitted & bring it to code. Otherwise you may not find that it's worth the work & cost & tear it down.
Emily S. Knell
Realtor Since 1996
Realty ONE Group