Greenpoint Brooklyn is a great area, and because of that it has upped in price in the past couple of years. Many new developments went up in that time and they are still building on wahtever space is left. The problem your son and his fiance will face, is that Condos are more expensive than Co-ops. Most Condo's still require only 10% down, which means a much higher mortgage for them to carry if they get approved. Since they do not have any Credit History, it will all be on your hands, and you may need to physically come to New York to deal with that issue if and when it arises. If possible you may want to include the fiances parents if thats an option to help with financials, or you can gift money into their account. Realistically speaking, they may want to wait until they have jobs which are more secure and stable which show a steady flow of income.
If you like I can email you a breakdown of Closing Costs for buyers on a Condo apartment to give you a better idea of future expenses.
They should also look at Long Island City, many good projects which are going up there and well priced.
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Best of Luck Karen
Maybe your son and his fiancee should wait a while before buying. Not that now's a bad time to buy; in many ways, it's a very good time to buy. And not that they're unable to buy; there are a number of strategies (and I liked Afs' comments) that would allow them to buy.
It's just that it sounds like your son and his fiance are free spirits. And that's great. They're freelancers. They're frugal. They traveled in Europe for 9 months. (Your son's probably been described more than once as "marching to the beat of a different drummer.") Are they sure they're ready to be tied down by ownership?
And if your son, at this point, is so allergic to debt that he doesn't have a credit card, how's he going to feel about a mortgage and the documents that'll show how much in interest he'll be paying over the next 15-30 years?
If he thinks he might want to buy, then maybe a lease-option would work. It'd let him control a property, but really only be obligated for the lease. If he decided in a year or two that the property...or ownership at this point in his life...wasn't for him, he'd just allow the lease to expire, the option would terminate, and he could move on.
Also, whether or not he decides to buy, the should talk to a mortgage broker just to determine how to strengthen his credit rating. Possibly getting a credit card, making a few charges, and paying it off each month would help, while not making your son too uncomfortable with the idea of a "credit" card.
Good luck to you, your son, and his fiance.
We are putting down 15%, if that helps to know. in brooklyn. good luck!
Carissa, my son is willing to make some pretty significant sacrifices to avoid a 9 to 5 situation, so although I'm sure you're right about the bank's preferences, he just isn't going to do it.
Tin, thanks for your take on the market and what lenders are seeking. That is a big part what the kids need to know - just how hard are they going to have to work for how long? If they need 120K in savings, that is a tall order, but those two cheapskates could probably do it three years.
If Carissa's right, though, being freelance will be a huge problem. Unless the mortgage market has changed significantly by the time they are ready to buy.
cosigning only helps for the money side (the way I understand it) and not the credit score side...so it all depends on his scores.
I do think he should get and maintain a card, to beef up his score...but not if he is just about to try for a mortgage because it takes time to help.