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Joe Bay, Home Owner in Brooklyn, NY

What is a junior 4?

Asked by Joe Bay, Brooklyn, NY Fri Apr 12, 2013

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Hello Joe, this is a real estate term, or "brokerspeak" commonly uttered in NYC, used to describe a one bedroom apartment with a separate dining room, extra living space, "flex room" or office. Sometimes a junior 4 will be advertised/mislabeled as a two bedroom, since the extra space could conceivably be used as a bedroom, but may not fit the legal definition of a two bedroom.
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Junior four is also used to describe a large 1 BR apartment with an alcove that can be converted to a separate small 2d bedroom
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Dear Joe:

A Junior Four apartment in New York City is a unit in which there are four distinct rooms, usually a bedroom, a living room, a kitchen, and a formal dining room.

This fourth room is a Junior 4 apartment is usually located off of the living area, or as an alcove set back from unit's main hallway, between the kitchen and the rest of the apartment. The fourth room in a Junior Four apartment can be used as a dining area, a home office or an extra bedroom.

It can work well for someone who cannot afford the price of an actual two bedroom apartment.

Best,

Ross Ellis
Licensed Real Estate Salesperson
Member of Real Estate Board of New York
212.317.7828 direct
770 Lexington Avenue, 10th Floor New York, NY 10065
rellis@halstead.com
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The "4" comes from the number of rooms in the apartment, specifically the bedroom, living room, kitchen, and dining area/small bedroom/office. The term is usually used in the New York City rental market.
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Hi Joe. I don't mean to add to the din of answers but here's my take. A Junior 4 is a somewhat disingenuous name that has been floating around in Manhattan Coop and Condo sales for quite some time. As others had stated, it is usually an alcove space like a dining area that has had a wall put up to define it as a second bedroom or office space. There may be a window and closet or not but it is not a true bedroom regardless.

If you've been browsing Manhattan apartments, you may have come across his younger brother the Junior 1. This is an "L" shaped studio apt where the L has been made into the bedroom space.

I don't particularly care for the adopted names but there you have it. If you are in the market for a full two bedroom apartment, I would forego the JR4's. If I can be of any assistance, please feel free to contact me through Trulia any time. Good luck.
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Joe,
A "Junior 4" is an apartment with one bedroom, a kitchen, a living room and a small alcove, which is usually in an "L" shape off the living room. You are getting a mix of answers below. The "4" in an "junior 4" should not be considered a separate room; it is an alcove. Also below it is stated below that a formal dining room is one of the rooms; not so. The alcove may be used as a small dining space, a small additional bedroom/nursery, or home office. Also, it is stated below that this is a rental market term, but room count terms apply equally to sales.

Best,
Jenet Levy
Halstead Property, LLC
jlevy@halstead.com
212 381-4268
http://jenetlevy.halstead.com
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