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Lilly, Home Buyer in Harbor City, CA

Our company won't let us take out our 401K for a down on a new home :( we were so hoping on that:( Now WHAT??? no home

Asked by Lilly, Harbor City, CA Fri Mar 15, 2013

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John Burke’s answer
Hi Lilly,

Can you clarify? They will not allow you to cash out your 401K for a down payment, they will not allow you to take a loan against your 401K for a down payment or both?

In all honesty, if they are not allowing you to cash out your 401K, it's probably a good thing for you since you would have to pay tax penalties on it.

If you can, the best thing to do is take a loan out against your 401K. This way you're not hit with the tax penalties, your money is still working for you & depending on the loan program, (FHA, VA, USDA) the terms of the loan do not need to be counted against your income.

Please feel free to contact me for more information or help.

John Burke
Senior Mortgage Banker
Peoples Bank & Trust Co.
(877)228-9069
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Mar 15, 2013
Oh Dear,
Many people borrow money from Parents or other family members for the down payment. You can arrange to make payments to be sure you pay the family member back.
1 vote Thank Flag Link Tue Jun 4, 2013
Your company may not have a "Self Directed IRA". A self directed IRA account allows you to directly control and direct your funds into investments of your choosing. Also, many IRA custodians that offer self directed IRA accounts greatly limit your investment options. You may be able to get a loan for your account to handle the down payment. Contract your company's HR department to explore your options.
1 vote Thank Flag Link Fri Mar 15, 2013
We have and we can take a loan of $50,000 but that it we have 195,000 in there we would like to put down as much as we can we will have 2 mortgages Just when you feel a door open a other door close, We live in a 2 bedroom home right and it just to small we have a son 5 and a daughter 8 months the size of our home is only 783qf
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Hi Lilly,

There are some special first home-buyer grants and programs available. I am well versed in these programs and may be able to help you. Also, here is some more "Insider Tips" about using a 401 K to buy a home. To be honest, I am kind of suprised that your 401K is not allowing you to withdraw to purchase. I really would like to see if I can help you.

Can I Use My 401(k) to Buy a House?
For many families, their 401(k) or other retirement plan is their biggest, most important asset. So it's very natural to wonder if you can use your 401(k) to help make a down payment on a house.
The answer is a qualified "yes." It is possible to use a 401(k) plan to help with purchasing a home, though if you are still working for the company, your plan rules have to allow for something called an "in-service withdrawal."
If You Still Work for the Company
If you are still actively working for the plan sponsor and your plan rules allow for in-service withdrawals, all you have to do is notify your human resources department or your plan administrator that you want to take a distribution to put toward the down payment of a home. Some plans also have a separate set of emergency or hardship distribution rules that allow you to access your 401(k) balance in the event of an "immediate and heavy need." Some plans include the purchase of a personal residence as such an event. This may also enable you to access your 401(k) balance for the purchase of a down payment on a personal residence.
If you can qualify for the withdrawal under the emergency distribution rules, that's even better, since that may enable you to sidestep the 10 percent penalty that usually applies to distributions prior to age 59½. (The 10 percent penalty is also waived if you are age 55 or older and you have left the service of your employer.)
If You Have Left the Company
If you have left the company, you can also take a distribution, paying income tax and – depending on your age, a possible 10 percent penalty. (To avoid the penalty, you may want to conduct a 401(k) to IRA rollover first. This may help because there are no penalties on up to $10,000 in distributions for the purpose of putting a down payment on a first home if you take the distribution from an IRA.)
Advantages and Disadvantages
The advantage to using a 401(k) to help with a down payment is obvious: You can get that money now, and save yourself from having to rent for months or years while you save up for a down payment.
You should also be aware of a number of downsides, though:
The 401(k) plan provider will withhold 20 percent of your withdrawal to pay income taxes with. So you won't see your entire distribution - only 80 percent of it.
You'll have to pay income taxes. Since you didn't pay income taxes on your contribution, you'll have to pay them in the year of the withdrawal. The plan administrator will send you and the IRS a Form 1099.
You are unplugging a tax-deferred vehicle. However, your home also grows tax-deferred, and the first $250,000 in gains are tax exempt. For married couples, you have up to $500,000 of gains exempt from capital gains taxes when you eventually sell the home.
401(k)s receive unlimited protection from creditors under federal law. Home equity may not have the same protection, depending on your state.
401(k) Loans
Some plans let you borrow from your 401(k), rather than make a withdrawal. This lets you tap the funds in your 401(k) with no taxes or penalties. You just have to pay yourself back with interest. But since you are paying the interest to yourself, this isn't a big deal.
Normally, the most you can borrow from a 401(k) is $50,000, or half the plan balance, whichever is less. This is usually enough for a down payment on a primary residence for most of us, though. Also, most 401(k) loans must be paid back over five years – normally via payroll deduction. So your employer will take your repayment out of every paycheck until the balance is paid off. Some plans, however, let you extend the repayment period to 10 or 15 years for loans to help buy a personal residence.
Use caution, though: If you lose your job, or leave your employer, you normally have just 60 days to pay off the loan. Otherwise, the IRS deems it a distribution, and the rules above apply.
Not every plan allows for 401(k) loans, so check with your human resources department for the rules specific to your plan.

For more info or if you just want to find a solution, please feel free to contact me directly at 323-608-4881.

Thanks,
Anna Maria Kitras, Broker
HomeSmart- http://www.southbayluxuryhomes.com
323-608-4881
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat May 25, 2013
Hi Lilly,

You may want to consider taking a loan on your 401K. Your employer may allow for this. Another option might be to explore other financing options. Maybe an FHA 3.5% loan program instead of the higher down payment program you may have been choosing at first. Talk to your agent and loan person to determine what options may be available to you.

If you don't have an agent/broker representing you yet I would be happy to help you with your home search. Feel free to contact me via my website.

Regards,
Bruce
DRE:01004069
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Mar 15, 2013
We have but would be to high house payment since we can keep the home we are in, we would like to go down with 20% down Conventional without MI Conventional w/MI FHA
Purchase Price $ 520,000.00 $ 430,000.00 $400,000.00
DownPayment 20% $ 104,000.00 10% $ 43,000.00 3.50% $ 14,000.00
$ 416,000.00 $ 387,000.00 $386,000.00
Up Front MI $ 6,755.00
Total Loan Amount $ 416,000.00 $ 387,000.00 $392,755.00

Rate / P & I 3.75% $ 1,926.56 4.25% $ 1,903.81 3.63% $ 1,791.16
Monthly MI 0 $ - 0.74 $ 238.65 1.25 $ 402.08
Property Taxes 1.25% $ 541.67 1.25% $ 447.92 1.25% $ 416.67
Hazzard Insurance est. $ 60.00 est. $ 60.00 est. $ 60.00
Total Payment $
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