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Have your Realtor run the comps. Determine what the property would be worth in good, fixed-up condition. Then determine the amount of repairs and upgrades needed. Add to that what your time and efforts would be worth to manage the upgrades and fix-ups. Then offer something less.
Here's an example. It's a modified version of the process real estate investors use.
Let's assume that in good, fixed-up condition (what investors call ARV, or "after repair value") that the property would sell for/be worth $300,000.
Then figure out the costs to upgrade and repair. Let's say $30,000. (Kitchen=$15,000, Two baths @$5,000=$10,000, Paint, etc.=$5,000. These are very crude numbers; you need to pin the numbers down precisely.)
An investor would take a percentage of the $300,000, then subtract the repair costs. As a retail buyer, you can just take the repair costs and add maybe 50% to them to cover cost overruns and your time and effort. Adjust that percentage, but allow a minimum of 25% just for cost overruns. So now the repair costs plus a safety margin and your time all come to $45,000. Subtract that from $300,000. That means you should pay no more than $255,000 for it. And probably less.
Now you can take a look at what the listing price of the property is. If it's $200,000, then it's a good buy as is. But if it's been on the market for two years, it's probably priced higher.
If it's priced at $250,000, re-check your numbers--both the CMA and repair costs. It's a fair value as-is. You'd probably offer a bit less--say $235,000.
If it's priced at $300,000, remember you're paying no more than $255,000. And there are a couple of strategies at this point. Maybe come in at $250,000 or so, and let the seller know that this is your one offer. Period. Or come in a bit lower, say around $220,000, and be prepared to negotiate, but again no higher than $255,000.
Your Realtor can advise you on the best strategies to use.
And consider getting a 203(k) loan. That's a loan that includes both the purchase price and the rehab costs. Check with your Realtor or a good mortgage broker for more information.
Hope that helps.
Tue Nov 17 2009, 12:12