Perhaps we should all take a look at the TAB under ADVICE. There's another prompt that says AGENT TO AGENT. It's sole purpose is for we P-R-O-F-E-S-S-I-O-N-A-L-S to seek out one another. This is one of the most creative and resourceful RE sites on the Internet. We can use it in anyway that benefits us.
Can't we all just GET ALONG?
I think the real issue is that people don't understand technology in general. I don't know if you realize, but when you ask a question and you have Google presence, your public information, wanted or not, is exposed. Regarding Annette - I'm not slamming anyone, I'm just saying that this is not the right forum for asking broker questions that might reveal lack of expertise. But you are right in "raising the bar" being elitist thinking. At the same time, having the bar set low or not encouraging others to raise the bar keeps us used car sales people in the consumer's eyes, not deserving of respect or what we earn in commissions, don't you think?
As far as the agent to agent - So funny! I post stuff there all the time and from reading the answers I can see that the agents think I'm a consumer and give me advice from that perspective "call your Realtor." Realtors suffer from RDR - Realtors Don't Read.
Agents should consider finding a private group on or offline to discuss brokerage questions that have to do with experience or lack thereof to protect their own reputation. We all need help from time to time, just don't post it publicly to protect you.
However, it must be noted that every agent participating on Trulia has the ability to select regarding what questions they will receive notification. When you select 'All Activity' you should be prepared to take the good with the bad.
From time to time, an agent may have a 'public service announcement' frame of mind and simply wants to propose a question to demonstrate how complex this business is. One question, 45 different responses, half of which say, consult an attorney, tax advisor or chaplain. A consumer may come to the realization an effective professional is a solutions provider, not a crisis maker.
You can not know the purpose intended for the question submitted. You only know what your reaction is. One's reaction is always a reflection of what is inside them, and has little to do with the questioner or the content. Quite often that reaction is the vision of the 'blue haired real estate diva' everyone wants to avoid.
Yes, I agree, aggregate websites are for entertainment purposes. Buyers and sellers are not well served here. Real estate professionals should not expect a higher level. Don't take any of this stuff on aggregate web sites too seriously. But have intention to get those wanting to make a real estate decision to resources that can really help.
In my opinion, it is not the simplistic question that is grievous, but the misguided response offered with no attempt to gather more critical information.
Somewhere it is recorded that wisdom exists in the counsel of many. Why don't we just walk forward in that light.
It shows the difference between agents that know what they are doing and agents that don't. So many buyers think its about picking a house or putting a sign up. They over look experience in contracts, time frames, and marketing with local knowledge.
When agents ask ridiculous questions and experienced agents answer them, it shows consumers the difference of knowledge between agents.
The 90 / 10 rule is out there for a reason.
One of the benefits of being a highly trained, experienced agents is that we can give back to our chosen profession by helping those with less experience or training. I consider it a gift that broadens the reach of our industry and improves our standing as professionals.
In addition, every transaction is different, and even with the best training, and after 36 years as a residential Realtor, I continue to encounter new and intriguing problems and issues. Thank goodness Trulia gives a forum to reach out to other agents for advice and real world experience.
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I'd be scared of the agent who is not asking questions, getting better, seeking to understand and clarify.
I do share your view that there are way too many brokers out there not supporting their agents, not providing training, not providing mentors. This is not only sad, but a poor reflection on our industry. I almost wish there was an apprenticeship program for new agents, that would not allow them to get their license until they have partnered on several listings or sales.
Peers ask questions of peers all the time. Last year Dodd-Frank passed and turned the entire mortgage and real estate market on it's head yet again. There are many factors on every transaction.
As such, I appreciate someone who has the courage to seek out answers. Brian, would you rather work with someone who just BS' his/her way through your deal (your purchase) only to find out at the end, that you don't qualify or the deal feel through? I appreciate those realtors who find a safe place in this venue to seek out answers or just brainstorm on the latest political BS coming out of Washington that seeks yet again to attack our livlihood.
In a perfect world, we are all omnipotent. However, we don't live in a perfect world Brian, we live in a fast changing environment that requires answers that we may not know sir.
Lighten up. It's going to be ok little fella!
I agree, there is nothing wrong with helping out others who have less experience. My response doesn't come from being elitist or snobby. At my company we have one of the most extensive and ongoing training programs available. Every agent is brought along slowly, coop-ing deals with me or more experience agents and gaining more experience each deal until they barely need help anymore.
This is why I'm surprised - no one at my company would ever think to come here for professional advice because they have access to such great resources in house. And I'm also surprised that agents don't understand that clients often ask questions or search here for representation - doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that if a potential buyer comes across a profile of someone who apparently doesn't have a lot of experience they're not likely to get that client.
On another point raised here: There are consumers who read these forums. Comments are on display for all to see. If consumers don't return to ask their questions, maybe it's because they didn't like the answers - or the treatment they received.
Just my opinion, but we should be approachable and helpful. We're building a community here. Let's be helpful. A better educated public is what we want, isn't it?
You have a very good point....for issues of regulations, policy, protocol, and procedure, the first avenue for information should be via one's broker or manager.
Unfortunately, real estate is like the rest of the world.....there are those that do and do well.....those that don'r do well.....and those that would have everyone believe they have all of the answers but "only talk a good game...."
From my perspective, there is always a reason why people choose the means they do to obtain information.
There is a theory that we're all smarter for having Google to help us search for information. There is another theory that groups can be an excellent resource.
I don't mind if someone has a question.
If you're suggesting that some firms are not spending enough on training, it wouldn't be be the first time.
I would rather the newbies ask questions than blunder forward creating problems. If someone is new to the business and doesn't know something, they shouldn't be too proud to ask. It's a better policy than pretending you know what you're doing. Another thing, it doesn't happen frequently but I've come across a grizzled veteran or two who have surprised me with their lack of knowledge.
That's not important. I confess sometimes I feel weary from going back over someone's work and having to get them on the phone. It happens. If we help one another, the profession benefits - and the client benefits.
I agree with Deborah Bremner, real estate is incredibly complex. None of us can possibly know it all. Yes, thank goodness for Trulia and its forum.
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"Home buyers & sellers ask questions TO Realtors to get answers. They're not really the ones browsing around for questions like this, your question is not reaching the right audience. This type of question is probably better for a blog site. After you've given over 1300 well though out answers to consumers here on Trulia, you'll understand why my receiving an email alert for this type of 'question', is annoying"
My receiving your question in my inbox today is a little annoying too, but I understand you just want to vent. I find screaming into a pillow works or grabbing a 1/2 gallon of double chocolate chip ice cream......nom nom nom
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Thanks for posting this question. I was wondering the same thing. It does hurt us as professional organization. Agents, you are working for your BROKER. He or she is your employer. Don't be afraid to ask your BROKER or office manager questions regarding a real estate transaction.
the notion that licencee's are responsible to learn the protocol and process. I have not seen an unknowing agent on this site ask a silly question but if I did I would not look fondly on it.
It never fails that the elitist and exclusionist chant the 'Raise the Bar' mantra. Too many assume to know the purpose intended by the submitter for the question they posted.
As you so clearly stated, Truila can be utilized for the purpose of the participant. We do not all share the same purpose. To follow the practices of Trulia, one should understand this is a good platform to collect marketing research......and not the best resource to dispense advise when all the facts of the situation can not be known.
If you are marketing to agents, 'What type and structure of question gets the most attention?"
If you are marketing to buyers or sellers, how do you present your links to get the clicks.
Unfortunately, some believe this is a real estate web site and work feverishly to try to make ti so. The reality is, feverish real estate agent participation will not turn an entertainment site into a real estate site. John's understanding and willingness to share the same will serve more agents and citzens better than the knee-jerk 'raise the bar' babble.
When the tide again changes, and the market put on a new suit, and fresh agents make as much as the old salts, we willl still here the chanting in the background........raise the bar. So what's new?
It's always good to create an atmosphere for learning and advancement in your office (that's how it is in my office currently, it wasn't like that at one of my previous companies) or community (or online community in this case) but when we as professionals ask questions here, it's probably a good idea to ask yourself if you should be posting your question publically for your future clients to see at some later date and there will be ones who google you and find every question you ever asked/answered.
Perception is reality in our business, if you're asking a question that makes you look new, your future clients may weed you out by that same criteria; it works both ways.
Yet from time to time we like to communicate and ask each others opinions. Just to see if the is a uniform consensus. I hope that helps. Jenny
is a thread that asks and has many answers to the question: "Why are there no stupid questions?"
"there is no such thing as a stupid question, but generally they are the easiest to answer."
"If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?"
"There are no stupid questions, only malformed and/or annoying ones."
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots"