Jenn, Other/Just Looking in Astoria, Queens, NY

Raising a family in Jackson Heights

Asked by Jenn, Astoria, Queens, NY Sun Jun 7, 2009

Any one experience raising a baby/young child in this neighborhood? We are looking to move there but just realized there are not many (or any) parks or green spaces. Seems like there are a lot of young families though. Your thoughts? We are also thinking about just staying in Astoria.

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There is not a lot of green space, that is true, unless you live in the historic district with private gardens. However, I have a 2-year-old, and I go to the toddler playground regularly, and I have not found it to be crowded. I mean, yes, occasionally, it seems busy, but I don't think that's unusual for a playground. I actually find that, more often, I go and wonder where the heck the other kids are. Perhaps a lot of kids are on a certain naptime? I'm not sure.

In terms of daycare, I do not use one, but I have friends who are very happy with ELC, and the Lexington School for the Deaf offers a (non-deaf) preschool that was started for the teachers' kids. Supposedly, it is fantastic. Also, I have heard (contrary to the other poster) that the Garden School is exceptional for Pre-K and K, because the teachers are really, really good. It is definitely pricey, though. (I also just toured it, and had the opposite impression than the other poster. The teacher was very forthcoming, and the space didn't seem like an afterthought to me at all.) Rainbow is not supposed to be good.

I have found that a lot of people from Brooklyn and Manhattan have moved into the neighborhood, and are EXTREMELY active trying to improve everything about the neighborhood. I used to live in Manhattan, and have never seen anything like this level of community involvement. I also find that I know a ton of people when I walk down the street. I am pleased I moved here.
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The decision as to where to live is entirely yours; you know your lifestyle and the area best suited for you is your own personal matter. Look at different neighborhoods and narrow to your choices down by deciding what is a must have, what can you live without, and what you absolutely don't want and take your search from there.

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We've lived in Jackson Heights for over a decade. Our son is a toddler.

There is no green space at all in Jackson Heights that is public. There is a great toddler playground in Travers Park, but it gets very crowded especially on the weekends and weekday afternoons. I grew up in the city, so when I say crowded, I mean so crowded that there is no where to even sit down.

The bigger problem for us has been childcare. Having looked extensively within Jackson Heights, we were fortunate enough to find a wonderful daycare, but had to go outside of the neighborhood. Neighborhood nurseries that we have looked at include the Jackson Heights Early Learning Center, the Garden School and Rainbowland.

When we visited the JHELC Annex, we witnessed a teacher who that was supposed to be reading to the 2-year olds. Only instead of reading, a boombox was playing a recording of the book while the teacher flipped the pages. An email to the Director went unanswered for several days because she apparently only has time to reply to non-urgent emails on the weekends. They have a 1:8 ratio of staff to children for the 2-year-olds. This is a very high ratio of children to staff. The Director assured us that they try to keep it a 1:5 staff to child ratio, but as far as I'm concerned trying is not good enough. They located in a small semi-basement.

We also toured the Garden School nursery, having heard wonderful things about their pre-k program. The people who gave us the school tour were very gracious and forthcoming in providing information. Whereas the curriculum seems well-rounded for the higher grades, the nursery itself felt like an afterthought. The head teacher was begruding when answering our questions. They have a 1:7 ratio of staff to children for the 2-year-olds.

When we visited Rainbowland, the toddlers were seated in front of a large TV watching a cartoon. Enough said.

Just when we thought that perhaps we were being too picky, we did find a daycare outside of the neighborhood with everything that we were looking for. Small class sizes (1:5 staff:child), prompt answers from the administration, daily communications (written & verbal) not just a posted schedule, and friendly, loving, professional service. So it does exist. Just not in Jackson Heights that we could find. What we did find was that the daycares in JH that we looked at sounded great on paper, but were disappointing in person.

In terms of neighborhood vibe, II would say that overall, Jackson Heights is a bit older and more conservative / suburban whereas Astoria is a bit younger and hipper. IMHO, JH is more class-conscious and more self-conscious than Astoria.

We will actually be moving later on this year to another neighborhood in the city with green space that is closer to our childcare provider.

Hope this helps.
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