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Vic66, Other/Just Looking in 85006

I am going to stop payments on my home. It is now worth about 50% of what I purchased it for. I applied for a modification loan with my bank but the

Asked by Vic66, 85006 Sat Jul 17, 2010

said no and will not refinance my home because it is not worth what I owe. The same bank is my mortgage holder. I have talked to a few people. I am scared. I am the kind who always pays the bills first but now I cannot live and pay the bills. What should I know and what will occur?

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It is far better to do a short sale of your home rather than let it go to foreclosure. Foreclosure is considered not working with the bank and a short sale is considered working with the bank.

If you stop your payments they will ultimately foreclose. If you put in on the market and sell it, your Realtor, can negotiate a short sale for you.

I will be happy to help you and am applying for the job of selling your home.

Please call me or visit my web site and see the sellers tab for additional short sale information.
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1 vote Thank Flag Link Sat Jul 17, 2010
Call me ,I will try to help you ..You have to discuss options first ,Email if you are too busy .
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Jan 18, 2013
Although this is an old posting, any new readers in this situation should know that if you AREN'T late on your payments and have not received a notice of default, you can sell your house doing a SHORT SALE and turn around and BUY ANOTHER home. As long as your credit is still good and you qualify income, have a job, etc... DON'T stop making payments until you find out first!!! Feel free to call me... 909-917-6176
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Jul 3, 2012

Do you have a financial hardship? If so why not try a short sale?

Best of Luck to you,

Kawain Payne, Realtor
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Jul 2, 2012
Hi "Vic66", I don't know if you have had any luck with this matter but I wanted to follow up and see if you still had an unanswered questions. There are so many things to consider when making a huge decision like choosing foreclosure and I want to help guide you through making the right decision for you.

Every 1st Tuesday of the month there is a free Financial Recovery Workshop at my office. The presenters for this workshop is a short sale and foreclosure specialist, a realtate attorney and a lender. All of these presenters focus on answering homeowners questions. You ask, they answer and it's FREE. You should consider attending one of this sessions and pick our brains as much as you can. If you want the details let me know. Can't stress enough how attendees leave these workshops with a sense of relief because they understand what needs to happen. You will definitely learn what you should know and what will occur.

Hope this helps :)
0 votes Thank Flag Link Wed Aug 10, 2011
I would still try and get help, walking away is the most troublesome type of foreclosure. To be honest with you any type of foreclosure, yes short sale and deed-in-lieu of are forms of foreclosure, is a life changing event. See my blog "ramifications of foreclosure"

Call 222 your state has programs to assist and actually enforce bank mandated modifications. These modifications are for people in your situation so the bank telling you there is not enough equity in your home is hog wash.

By the way if your home is that far under water a short sale is not going to work for you the bank will drag their feet forever and the foreclosure department will continue its proceeding and next thing you know you think you were out of water with a short sale and the foreclosure happens, I see this all the time. OH and short sale will not stop you from having to pay what you owe or allow you to buy anytime soon.

GET ON THE PHONE TOMORROW call the bank tell them you do not except the result of the modification, call 222 get help, and do not pay anyone if someone asks you for money it is a scam.

Good Luck
Bob Patrick
Buy a home after foreclosure expert
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Jul 18, 2010
You have several options, but you'll need to take some action quickly. Some options are: a short sale, deed in lieu, sell with seller financing, equity partnering, etc.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Jul 17, 2010

There may be an another alternative I know a lender who will give you a new 30 year fixed mortgage at todays market value with no pre-payment penalty.

This is not for everyone you must qualify for a new loan at todays market value so if your hardship is un-employment it will not work for you. The debt to income is 40% and only taking into consideration principal, interest, taxes, insurance and HOA. Your present mortgage can not be insured by a government agency. (No Freddie, Fannie, VA or FHA).

If you would like more information you may email me.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Jul 17, 2010
Hi Vic,
I am sorry to hear about what is going on.
Who is your lender? I would love to see how you put together your modification application.

Some home owners include too much debt, thinking that the worse off they Look they better of a loan mod or more the lender will reduce their mortgage. That is not so.

Also, believe it or not, some loan mods get denied because the lender did not have current info or a specific page. You should find out why you were denied.

I work for an attorney and I am happy to offer a 15 minute consultation. If you are not currently late you may want to keep paying if you can afford it. Some times you may have more options when your curernt.

I work with some investors and if your curent you may be able to get s "Short Refinance" a new loan at the current market value or close to.

Basically, if you have income, and your mortgage payment is more than 31% of your gross income (principal interest taxes and insurance, HOA ) you may have options.

I hate to a home owner walk away from their home or short sell it when they could possibly keep it if they do it correctly.

Unless you just no longer want your home, or you just do not have any money I would try to have a loan mod professionally done by an attorney.

JoAnna Jensen
Legal Assistant
Volo Law Group
925 699 5041
Loan Mods Debt Settlement
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Jul 17, 2010
Hello Vic, I am sorry to hear about your situation. You're not alone...I know many people who are in the same boat. It's really sad.

What was the reason you were denied for the loan modification....did they give you one? Unfortunately, even if you were successful with getting your loan modified, more than likely your bank/lender would not reduce your principal. So yes you could have lower payments, but you're still going to be upside down....and it will take a long time to gain back that lost equity.

I understand your situation very well and know it can take a tremendous emotional toll on you. It's okay to be scared. Know this, once you miss a payment the debt collection phone calls will start. They will call at all times and every number they have for you on file. They will be mean and condescending. Their job is not to be nice, but to collect money.

I would advise you find an experience Realtor who knows short sales. You want someone who is on your side and is not just thinking about a commission. You want to make sure your best interests are looked out for. An experienced Realtor will be able to guide you through this process...hold your hand and get your bank/lender to stop calling and harassing you.
There are some potential legal and tax consequences associated with short sales and foreclosures so make sure your Realtor can help steer you in the right direction.
Feel free to watch some of my videos regarding loan mods, short sales and foreclosures at:
I’m also available to talk via email and phone.
I wish you the very best with your unfortunate circumstance.
Ryan Smith from Temecula, CA
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Jul 17, 2010
Hi Vic -

I'm sorry for your troubles and unfortunately you are not alone. Is there only one lender or more than one (1st and 2nd mortgages?) Did you apply for the mod under "Making Home Affordable" or HAMP? to the 1st or both?

Did your lender suggest a short sale under HAFA?

If the bank does not participate in HAMP or just will not work with you, you should list your property with a local REALTOR who specializes in short sales. Make sure they have closed short sales recently because they will know all the new processes and make sure they are HAFA Certified.

Your profile shows you in Phoenix AZ 85006, but your question is posted in Fontana CA 92336 - what state are you in. If the property is in Fontana, speak with a REALTOR in Fontana.

Best of luck and let us know how it works out,

Thom Colby
Broker / Owner & Certified HAFA Specialist
Thom Colby Properties
Newport Beach, CA
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0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Jul 17, 2010
You should carefully write down your questions and contact a real estate attorney in your area for advice about the results of the loan modification decision. You may have other options of short sale, bankruptcy, or other options your attorney can answer for you in an hour. The money will be well spent, then make an informed decision. Good luck

Matt Puzz
Citizens Choice Mortgage
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Jul 17, 2010
I live and specialize in North Fontana. send me an email at and I will be glad to sit down with you go over all of your options and explain the process for whatever option you choose.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Jul 17, 2010

It is unfortunate that your bank is not willing to work with you. As a Realtor, I hear this everyday. You may want to consider doing a short sale. Call me for more information, I would like to help you.

Deborah Linden
Prudential CA. Realty
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Jul 17, 2010

If there is a reason why you can't make your mortgage you should attempt a short sale. Simply deciding not to pay because the house is worth less than what you purchased it for is what is wrong with this country today.

If that were a "fair" thing to do then it would also be fair for a bank to take the house away from you whenever they wanted if it went up in value. Something tells me that everyone would be crying foul about that, but everyone seems to think it is okay if the shoe is on the other foot.

Cameron Piper
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