On another note, you can join LCCC and still take clients to BCCC by just paying the resort fees. It is a little expensive but the business expense would allow you to keep the $47k earning interest to help pay green fees. Another possibility is to join LCCC and if you don't like it, try to transfer your membership to BCCC (do your homework on this first).
The other KSL course you might want to look at is the Hills in Lakeway, which has 2 great courses! They have really nice facilities and a great group of golfers.
I am a member at Lost Creek CC and enjoy the facilties with lots of other golf friends! If you have any other questions about Lost Creek CC, just let me know. Otherwise, contact Pam Staulcup at LCCC at 512-892-1205 x104, and she will show you around the club!
Barbara Brown, Realtor
For those of you that frequent LC - what is their overall strengths vs. BC? Is it a social club with a variety of members (age range, profession etc)? I'm 42, married w/ an 8 year old daughter. I will primarily be entertaininig clients but it's also important to meet folks I like and will eventually play w/. Any information you can provide is much appreciated.
My recommendation is Barton Creek.
And, my recommendation for a real estate pro to hire to ensure you get the biggest bang for your buck and to find a great home at a great price, would be ShawnMon!
Call me sometime for a brief discussion Mr. Bubble. I'd love to discuss with you how my Buyer Representation services are of value worth taking advantage of. I already know your primary goal, and it happens to be my specialty!
If the value in my services does not exist, then I certainly won't encourage you to engage them, but that is something you can uncover in our discussion.
Look forward to hearing from you!
Keller Williams Realty
#1 Selling Broker in Austin Tx
Sorry to be answering so "late in the game" but wanted to make sure that you get the most accurate information about country clubs--specifically--The UT Golf Club. Though many clubs have started offering reduced pricing on their memberships based on the market conditions overall, in Austin and thus in the community that they are located in--The UT Golf Club is a rarity since it has not had to do this. With fewer than 30 memberships left to issue--they are holding firm to their asking price of $35k. It is a great club and well worth the money! Though it is not as established as BCCC, LCCC or ACC, since it is one of the "newest" clubs in town--it has a great reputation for great golf and fun members! Give them a call if you haven't already. 512-266-6464 Good luck with your decision. Seriously, whichever club you chose in Austin will be the perfect fit for your needs both personal and business! Austin is lucky to have so many wonderful country clubs here to compliment the great neighborhoods they are in. Welcome to Texas!
Barbara, what I meant by what's the deal with LC was that I want over there once. It seems to have a fantastic location. Very close in. Closer than BC. But, the buildings seemed like they needed an update. It looked all original.
I know nothing about the course. You are right, that is a great deal. I'm actually a member of a club in CA that is owned by ClubCorp, whiich owns BC, LC, and the Hills. The club dues at my club dropped from 35k to 10k over the last few years as high end everything went in the tank.
So, I can apply my original membership dues to whatever the price is in Austin. But, most of the good clubs seem to have prices like my club used to. LC would be perfect for me locationwise but I'm not sure the facility is up to par for entertaining clients, etc...
I do have to mention that they are renovating their greens over the entire summer, but during that time, are offering golf privileges at neighboring courses such as Barton Creek, Lakeway, and many more.
Please call Pam Staulcup, in Member Service, at 892-1205 x104, for more information.
Of course, if you need to see any homes in Lost Creek, please give me a call!
Barbara Brown, Realtor
Stanberry & Associates512-799-0668
Do not envision any discount being offered or negotiated at BCC or ACC. They are the most prestigious clubs in Austin and require an invitation to join the club with a full membership program. Old money, multi-generation Texans are at ACC and BCC is the most exclusive and expensive in town. Certain tiers of membership can be had. At one time, one of the best Fazio courses could be played by invitation only or you had to be accompanied by a charter member to play that course.
Focus your efforts on UT in Steiner if you need a discount -- the Steiner housing market was was hit very hard by the recession. Focus secondly on the Hills; Lakeway was hit, but not as hard as Steiner. Lost Creek is reasonable and is about a 10 minute drive from BCC.
The prices in Austin are very comparable to that of California with regard to country/golf clubs. Housing is considerably cheaper, but anything in zip codes 78746 and 78735 has held up reasonably well during the housing decline.
Good luck and come on down!
Regardless of title, they are your tool in saving money and purchasing smarter. That doesn't mean buying cheap products/services as a replacement to what you really want, it means getting what you want - for less!
Everyone should have a Personal Purchasing Manager (just like major corporations and small to large businesses do. It's always of value, and they always pay for themselves. (meaning that - it doesn't cost you a dime!)
You may remember in a previous post, I offered to negotiate your next auto purchase Mr. Bubble.
Anything of value that is worth saving money on, is perfect for the delegation of your Personal Purchasing Manager to be engaged. (homes, cars, memberships, service fees, late fees, collections owed, tax appraisals, furniture, art, construction, landscape, repairs, luxury items, and the list goes on)
Part Time (Personal Purchasing Managers) typically work on a "percentage of savings" basis. Full-time PPMs can work on salary or hourly (most often seen in the Mega Rich households only).
You should get yourself one. Again, they pay for themselves out of what they saved you on the purchase!
As far someone posting golf membership fees with their features and benefits outlined, this is a real estate website. you may try http://www.golf.com forums though for that.
My assumption is that, like high end home prices, club membership prices might be resetting to reflect the currently less-affluent, affluent.
Just because real estate and stock values drop, doesn't necessarily mean everything across the board drops. From membership fees all the way down to bottled water.
As memberships drop off, some businesses/associations take on a "cutting the fat" business model where they scale back on quantity and begin focusing on quality again.
Sounds like you could use a tactical negotiator on your side, Mr. Bubble. From what I've learned in your previous comments, you are not a fan of hiring help though, correct?
So, here, I'll give you an idea of what they may say as an objection to you when you ask for better prices (this way, you can prepare for your rebuttle):
"I understand your desire to get our membership fees at a lower cost Mr. Bubble, especially in light of your recession, however, our members have spoken and we've listended. Our most valued members want more green time and less crowds on the courses, therefore we must maintain rate integrity in order to filter out the "riff-raff" so to speak, and I know you'll appreciate that when you're a member here. I'm almost certain Mr. Bubble, that when you play our world-renowned courses and you don't have to yell FORE on every hole or wait to tee off, you'll gladly tell other respectable gentleman like yourself what a great deal you are getting here at Barton Creek."
Or you may here:
"Recession, yes, the recession is an unfortunate moment for all of us right now Mr. Bubble, however, our service offering and world-renowned courses and memberships here are seemingly unnaffected at this level of standards. I don't want to tell you that we weren't affected at all by the recession, I just want to recognize that playing golf allows people to escape the recession for a few hours a day, do you know what I mean Mr. Bubble? so, we've found that, on a membership level, we seem to be thriving. Now, our accessories and apparrell department may be a different story, so I know if you go into our pro shop, you'll see some incredible deals right now that you can take advantage of."
Hope that helps Mr Bubble! Go Get Em. And if you ever need a negotiator on your side, just reach out!
Are you aa golfer? We have great golf here in Austin both private and membership. Our biggest difference you'll see is in the grass on the greens. "Tiff Eagle" is the dominant grass around here. It is a much better strain of Bermuda than those from the recent past. The only courses that have "Bent Grass" are ACC and one you didn't mention Cliff Side, which is out west on Hwy 71 W. It sits on the banks of Lake Travis on the south side.
Bill Austin ~ firstname.lastname@example.org