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John Meyers, Real Estate Pro in Park Ridge, IL

Has anyone tried RedX or Landvoice? They both claim that they provide FSBOs, Expired, & Pre-Foreclosure leads based on their up-to-date databases.

Asked by John Meyers, Park Ridge, IL Sun Oct 30, 2011

The monthly cost doesn't seem high for either and it seems like these sources would be real time/money savers since I wouldn't need to drive around and knock on doors to prospect for new listing clients. However, it all boils down to the quality of the leads that they provide..

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In late 2011, there was actually a study conducted that proved that REDX could connect you with more homeowners than anyone else, not sure if landvoice was included there, but I think there were 20+ companies included in the study. I think you can request a copy of the results from REDX. I had one of their sales reps send me a copy. Seemed legitimate. In my experience, most of the numbers that I find when searching myself are disconnected or wrong anyway, so if I can pay $50 or $60 a month to have the same information, at least I'm not spending the time to find the numbers, I can just call them.
1 vote Thank Flag Link Thu Aug 23, 2012
I doubt this report would be very useful as Landvoice has spent the past two years redesigning their software platform to make it web based and extremely user friendly. They are able to provide better quality leads at better prices than Redx and as an agent you will be able to access the lists they send you on iPhone, iPad, Andriod, PC or any mobile tablet. Redx is software based an you will need to be near a PC to download and access their data in order to use it. Redx cant touch this delivery system yet. Ina recent side by side comparison, Landvoice has outshone Redx anytime.

The Landvoice challenge is for a client to send them all the Redx leads that don't have phone numbers and they will get you numbers for those leads. I say take the challenge and see whose better

Sales training and support are available and they are really good at getting you lists with up to 90% efficiency with contact numbers attached.
Flag Tue Jan 15, 2013
Honestly, why don't you pay an assistant money to get on the local FSBO sites and put that in a database for you. Expired's are easily downloaded from my MLS, not true for yours? Preforeclosure leads can be gotten from a local title company. I get the NOD list every week from them. I would think using an assistant would be cheaper?
1 vote Thank Flag Link Sun Oct 30, 2011
What you are paying for is the phone numbers. How would you assistant get those?
Flag Sun Nov 2, 2014
Why would you pay an assistant when a computer can do it to much more efficiently
Flag Thu Jul 31, 2014
Melina, how much would you need to pay your assistant to pull the files, check the phone numbers, them check against the National Do Not Call registry?

I think that in the time that it would take your assistant to do all this for me, l would have had a far more productive time on the phones using a contact generator like Redex.
Flag Thu Dec 12, 2013
The problem is that REDX will provide you with sellers contact info and the do not call list where if you pull the expireds on your own, you won't get this information and will have to use a cross reference directory which is time consuming.
Flag Mon Jun 25, 2012
Hi John,

I tried Landvoice years ago. At the time I thought they were on the pricey side for the leads received (considering they are not exclusive) and the information provided was not complete.

I would consider revisiting if you're interested in sharing costs? Call me direct 773-981-2005.

Good luck!
1 vote Thank Flag Link Sun Oct 30, 2011
Red EX is an absolutely terrible product....only good thing is there video they make, so you think its good. and-good luck cancelling. I cancelled and for about 1 year they would not stop billing my credit card. Its cheap and you get what you pay for -CHEAP JUNK-they are dishonest about cancelling. Every agent I spoke to -canceled because it was not good, but continued to get billed for way after cancellation. I advise any agent......do not sign up.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Dec 8, 2014
I got to use Landvoice free while I took BOLD. It was opposite of user friendly... (user unfriendly? haha). I was in tech/IT sales for 7 years prior to real estate and can teach myself how to use any unfamiliar system quickly, without instructions/training videos. However Landvoice was a complete enigma to me. After I finally managed to pull some data, I realized my account must have an issue bc it would only go back one week. And when I called their support line, the most bizarre customer service call I had ever experienced ensued. It was obviously the guy's first day on the job and his intelligence level was that of a 15 year old stoner that dropped out of school in 5th grade. Instead of helping me (bc he had no idea how to) he just kept repeating that what I was claiming was "weird, bc the system seems like it should be able to do what you want it to do" and that "everything was working on his end, so it's weird you can't figure it out...it should work fine....good luck!" And then he hung up. I sat there in disbelief for a few minutes before calling back and getting someone who actually helped, but it didn't change the fact that their system was confusing, cumbersome and time consuming. They may have improved things since then, but this was only 4 months ago. And I cant imagine they would provide a dumbed down version just bc I got to use for free...bc no one would sign up for the system I experienced.

I just singed up for the mojo triple line power dialer system, complete with FSBO and Expired data that feeds directly into the system, does all the calling for you, leaves your pre recorded voicemail to the ones that don't pick up, tracks your prospecting efforts, and automatically updates the info daily. It's the best out there that I've experienced. Go to http://www.mojosells.com for more info. Feel free to contact me as well.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Oct 28, 2014
Yes I am having problems with Landvoice and my MLS..ugh
Flag Tue Oct 28, 2014
This is Kim Sheward real estate agent at Skbk Sotheby's has anyone used Land Voice? I'm wondering if it's easier to use as I'm reading terrible reviews for the Red X!
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Oct 7, 2014
My experience with The RedX was horrible. They did not provide the information they say they can provide. They provided a lot of incorrect information at best. I tried to cancel my service and they allow you to do so, but they will not refund any unused portion.The phone representative was rude and arrogant and did nothing to try to address their inadequacies stating that she did not care if I posted my complaints online. So I am posting my statement and warn other agents not to waste your money with The RedX.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Aug 18, 2014
My experience with The RedX was horrible. They did not provide the information they say they can provide. They provided a lot of incorrect information at best. I tried to cancel my service and they allow you to do so, but they will not refund any unused portion.The phone representative was rude and arrogant and did nothing to try to address their inadequacies stating that she did not care if I posted my complaints online. So I am posting my statement and warn other agents not to waste your money with The RedX.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Aug 18, 2014
No matter what, it all boils down to the size of the record source. At the end of the day, you can read any study you want, the only concrete message that you can take away from expired/fsbo/cancelled contact records is that this is and always will be a numbers game. That being said, who has the time to sit there and call hundreds of records only to get an obnoxious beeping noise in your ear because you've reached yet another disconnect/fax number. However, keep in mind the following article from Inman News: http://www.inman.com/2012/05/07/agents-theres-gold-in-callin…

There is definitely gold in cold calling, but as a full time real estate agent, you can't sit there and cold call for 8 hours a day 5 days a week. If you have the marketing dollars, I would highly suggest outsourcing your cold calls to a technologically capable company. Yet another helpful link from Inman:

http://www.inman.com/2013/05/29/somebody-to-make-your-cold-calls/
0 votes Thank Flag Link Wed Jul 2, 2014
I purchased the RedX at the end of last year just before January 1. January 1 is the biggest day for expireds in our MLS. I was promised the system would work and was easy to operate. Using the RedX instructions was impossible for me, because my MLS generates a different kind of file type than that described in the RedX instructions. Everyone in my MLS that bought the RedX probably ran into the same problem. I asked the Red X for a refund but they refused. This is what the RedX:

"We do understand the tutorial we currently have for your MLS is out of date and are in the processing of trying to update those when we can. The tutorials on our site are general tutorials since we do not have direct access."
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Apr 11, 2014
I have had good success with RED/X. Its a numbers game, and its all about systems, consistency and great follow up!
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Feb 15, 2014
do you feel it saves time ?
Flag Fri Apr 25, 2014
I had RedX for a year and half. I didn't like it at all. I tried over and over again. They provide me with wrong phone numbers , non working numbers, no numbers. I found myself mailing or door knocking. After a year and a half it was time for me to more on.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Feb 14, 2014
In the beginning - Landvoice was very good in providing accurate information and
good phone numbers with correct contact information. FSBO's and Expireds- This lasted about 2-3 months . Now, I am finding ( And I don't fault Landvoice } that I am receiving less and less information
on a daily basis. I can't say that this is because there are less leads available or if
more and more realtors in my area are using the service and Landvoice realizes that it doesn't
have enough to go around. At any rate I am considering dropping the service and looking else
where for lead generation as I feel the money might be spent better elsewhere.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Feb 14, 2014
John,

A couple of top producers in my office use this programs and they work great for them. I have not yet to use RedEx but that is the next addition to my programs for real estate.


All the best,
Antonio Sanchez
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0 votes Thank Flag Link Wed Nov 6, 2013
I have used Landvoice for about 1 month now. I signed up for just FSBO's.
I received about 83 phone numbers with about 90% of them being good numbers.
Out of that I was able to get about 6 good appointments. I have not gotten any
listings as of yet but I have gotten some good referral info. The problems that
I have run into is that sometimes the addresses are cross streets which the
MLS will not pull up.( just to view } I usually go to zillow and am able to find the property or simply
call the phone and ask for the actual address.
The other issue is that you burn through 83 phone numbers fairly quickly.
Once you have used up the zip codes closest to you. It does not make since
to waste your time or gas calling outside your marketing area and the new FSBO"s
that come are not enough to keep you busy. Landvoice tries to get you to commit
to a package deal of FSBO"S and Expireds for the year but if you do the math , the
FSBO's are only valuable in the beginning and then maybe 3 months down the road.
I am going to try only expireds next to test that side out.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Wed Nov 6, 2013
Most of the information on this post feed is from 2011 and 2012. Has anyone used RedX, Landvoice or Vulcan7 in the last year and what did you think of the products, services, and did these services pay for themselves they way the claim?
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Nov 4, 2013
I used RedX only 2 months ago for Pre foreclosures. spent few days to learn the system. All the numbers either were wrong, disconnected or Do not call list. I spent one month fee, Not a single number was good. wasted one month time and money
Flag Fri Dec 5, 2014
Any update Andy?
Flag Sun Aug 17, 2014
I used the RedX for a free month trial full features for the Indianapolis Area. What I found was that they did give lots of phone numbers....if your into hearing this number is no longer in service OR they plug in the Agents number or office number as a "good" number. Going to try Landvoice starting today report back later!
Flag Mon Feb 10, 2014
I used Redx for a year and I didn't care for it. I signed up for Redx for a year and was very disappointed.
Most of the numbers were wrong or disconnected. I have never used Landvoice.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sat Oct 19, 2013
I have used both redx and landvoice. Both of them seemed to have similar quality of information. land voice worked very well for a realtor in eastern pennsylvania but not at all well for a realtor in northern nj, landvoice just did not seem to have access to the data for the area. Land voice is a web based product and Redx is a computer based product- you have to download it to each computer you use and go through a procedure if you want to update each computer. Kind of like outlook- its tied to one machine and it does not automatically update. This was a drawback for us, although it did have a little CRM on the back end - if you dont use an overall CRM program you can keep track of things there. Both would download into Top Producer. Hope that is informative. I would use the free trial time to determine if they have a good percentage of the available data for your area. You can use fsbo.com and your local county sheriff's website also.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Thu May 2, 2013
Landvoice did not meet my expectations. On some loads up to 2/3 of the expireds were on the do not call list. We also found that many of the numbers that were suppose to be available were actually on the do not call list but not marked as such. There has got to be another service with a greater return on your money.
Zhyanna, Houston
0 votes Thank Flag Link Fri Mar 15, 2013
Landvoice has spent the past two years redesigning their software platform to make it web based and extremely user friendly. They are able to provide better quality leads at better prices than Redx and as an agent you will be able to access the lists they send you on iPhone, iPad, Andriod, PC or any mobile tablet. Redx is software based an you will need to be near a PC to download and access their data in order to use it.

Sales training and support are available and they are really good at getting you lists with up to 90% efficiency with contact numbers attached.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Tue Jan 15, 2013
Beware of signing up with this service. I paid for a bundle service and the person handling my account, Meg Bobo, did not give me one of the services and never responded to my emails after letting her know I could't call because I was out of the country. They provide terrible customer service!
0 votes Thank Flag Link Wed Jan 9, 2013
LAndvoice or Redex
Flag Wed Jan 29, 2014
their lead sucks! BIG TIME! Most leads are DISCONNECTED numbers and WRONG numbers and if you complain, they ask you to upgrade your service to PRO which costs $200/mo..CRAP!
0 votes Thank Flag Link Wed Jul 18, 2012
I agree. It was awful.
Flag Sat Oct 19, 2013
I agree! The names they have on record do not match those in the tax roll. The mail gets sent back. The phone numbers are either not available or are wrong/disconnected. I gave them 6 months and found it to be a big waste of money and time. Invest your money else where.
Flag Sat Oct 6, 2012
Used RedX and they do exactly what you need it for. In 1 minute you will get all the names and phone numbers from your MLS. Somehitng that would take an hour is now a minute. Set up a hotsheet with your MLS and each day when you get your expireds you plug it into their software and it searches names and numbers almost instantly. Don't pay the set up fee, call them and say you were going to use land voice and they will wave the set up fee. one thing I did hear is that RedX will only work on one computer and you can log in to landvoice with any computer...if this is a factor, wasn't for me.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun May 6, 2012
Do they also supply you with the seller's phone number? I heard they couldn't do that?
Flag Thu Jul 4, 2013
How do they get the seller's phone number? Isn't that a difficult task to do?
Flag Thu Jul 4, 2013
A couple of my assoiciates use Redx and have gotten done quite well with it.; in terms of getting listings.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Nov 6, 2011
Hi John
I have used Landvoice FSBO service for several years and it is a very reliable source. They e-mail you the newest fsbos daily, some have addresses , all have asking prices & phone numbers and indicate if they are on the DNC list. As for expireds I just follow up on MLS on my own, rather than wait for a list from a service. No matter which service you decide to use follow up is key to listing success.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Wed Nov 2, 2011
John:

I have used RedX for 3 years and the list is very strong in my market. I understand that the streghten depends on how well the software integrates with your local MLS system. If you like to knock doors then this software would be an investment well spent. I personally do not like that business model and have found that so many brokers are marketing expired listings that the old drip campaign is no longer effective. All the best.
0 votes Thank Flag Link Mon Oct 31, 2011
I agree with you.
Flag Thu Sep 11, 2014
Thanks Melina. I went to Chicago Title Company for a pre-foreclosure list and they looked at me like I was asking to see photos of their first born. They honestly had no clue what I was asking for and just wanted me out of there (they were very busy).

I can easily pull expired listings from my MLS source (MRED), however, it only shows "Owner of Record" so I have no idea what the owner's name is or their phone number.

Rather than paying an assistant $10/hr to research and build a database, one of these sources for $100/month would be well worth the investment. After researching, I'm starting to see that their info is not too reliable though..
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Oct 30, 2011
Yes my company provide us with redx and I have spoken to landvoice myself the one difference between the two is redx is a software you download to your computer which limits you to access from that computer and landvoice you can log on from any computer and landvoice doesn't have a set up fee so I personally would choose landvoice but they do work
0 votes Thank Flag Link Sun Oct 30, 2011
Does the redx software work on a Mac?

Terrence
http://dfwmls.org
Flag Sun May 11, 2014
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