Buying a home can feel like the most intense research project ever
- to make a smart buy, you’ve got to get educated about mortgages,
learn how to read a contract, do a deep dive into property condition
issues or homeowner’s associations and pay attention to what’s going on
in the economic news and the real estate market. But there’s at least
one more area wise buyers don’t neglect: neighborhood research.
We
know, at a gut level, what kind of neighborhoods we like - tree-lined
streets, convenient shops, etc. and so forth. But what specific details
should you investigate before you buy or move into an area? Here are 5
items you definitely need-to-know before you move into a neighborhood:
1. Details on Shady Dealings.
Most of us think we know which sides of the railroad tracks, so to
speak, have high crime rates and which are supposedly safe. But before
you buy a home or move into a neighborhood, it behooves you to actually
do the research and see whether or not your beliefs are accurate. Check
out the Megan’s Law databases to see where registered sex offenders may
live, especially if you have young children or other reasons to be
particularly worried. Google your address, which might pop up details such as whether your intended home has ever been a meth lab, among other things. And,
whatever you do, don’t forget to tap into Trulia’s new Crime Maps – in a
number of metro areas (which will be constantly expanding), you can
view uber-detailed (and sometimes surprising!) crime data that is
uber-relevant to you. If you’re trying to decide between two homes in
different parts of town, you can even toggle back and forth between the
neighborhoods to compare them! For example, some neighborhoods have a
spike in car break-ins after people leave for work. Or maybe one side
of your street-to-be has a significantly higher rate of violent crimes
than the other.
That’s the kind of thing you should find out before you move in, don’tcha think? 2. How Recession-Resistant it is. Let’s
face facts: some neighborhoods, cities and states have fared better
than others over the course of the recession. An area’s proximity to
job opportunities, saturation with troubled subprime loans and the
amount of housing supply (vs. demand) all have something to do with
whether prices plummeted or have held up over the last few years.
Sometimes,
a neighborhood’s recession-proofness (or -proneness) is obvious: if
the street on which you’re house hunting is riddled with ‘For Sale’
signs (and foreclosure riders on top of them), or you know for a fact
that the home you’re buying is a short sale for which the sellers paid
double your price just 5 years ago, you might be in an area that has
been hard hit. Also, if your neighborhood has a sky-high rate of price reductions or it is much less expensive to buy than to rent a home in your area, these are other indicators that the recession might have hit your district pretty hard.
The
fact of the matter is, some of the hardest hit neighborhoods are where
the best deals are to be found, so I’m not necessarily suggesting that
you shy away from buying in such an area. But do know that the harder
hit areas might take longer to see an uptick in home values, too, so the
harder hit your neighborhood was by the real estate recession, the
longer you should plan on staying put before you buy, to make sure you
don’t end up needing to sell and stuck in an upside-down home. While a 5
to 7 year plan might make sense in an area where the real estate market
has been pretty robust over the last few years, you might want to be
okay with planning to hold your home upwards of 10 years before buying
in a foreclosure-riddled area (and you might also want to make
absolutely sure you’re very happy with the deal you’re getting).
On
the flip side, the more recession-resistant your area has been, the
more likely you are to encounter sellers with less flexibility on
pricing or even, gasp!, multiple offers!
3. The Neighborhood’s Flavor.
Is the area you’re considering a hot spot for outdoor adventures and
family events at the park, or chi chi restaurants and wine tastings at
the museum? Find out by pulling up some listings on Trulia and scrolling
down the see how others who have lived in the area have rated and
reviewed it.
Also, take a look at NabeWise
- it’s only available for about 10 large cities right now, but it’s got
a super useful function where you can search by city and what’s
important to you (like being in a trendy neighborhood, or one that’s got
ample public transportation) and it’ll surface neighborhoods which
might be a good fit for your values.Neighborhoods are even ranked based
on prestige and how beautiful residents are (the latter of which I find
fascinating - but more as a measure of where the raters’ heads are at
than of anything you must include in your neighborhood fit equation!).
4. Where are the hot spots? Before
you buy or move into an area, equip yourself with a knowledge of where
all the stores, farmer’s markets, parks, restaurants and other hot spots
your family will want to use are located vis-a-vis your home-to-be.
(Hint: your local real estate agent is a fabulous source for this kind
of information - they are especially gifted at knowing where the good
food and shopping is!) Your Trulia Mobile App will
alert you to nearby haunts that have Yelp! reviews; also, your
neighbors-to-be can be a great source of this sort of information -
knock on doors and ask for their recommendations.
It
also makes sense to search the web for the various sorts of things your
family is into, and your new neighborhood’s name. An internet search
for running trails in my neighborhood is how I found out my house was
just a couple of blocks away from a largely hidden lake we now visit
regularly. Then, drive around and see what you can see - or find
someone to drive for you. Once, when I moved to a new town, I marched
myself onto a city bus, sat behind the driver, told them I was new in
town and asked them to point out things they thought I needed to know.
I got an hour long tour through three neighboring towns - for $1.25!
5. What the neighborhood looks and feels like at different times of day/different days of the week. Have
you ever visited a Sunday afternoon open house when the sun was
shining, birds were singing, and charming neighborhood rugrats were
rolling their hoops up the street? (Okay - that was a century or two
ago, but you get the gist.) Then, you come back a couple of weeks later
for your inspections at dusk and find those same rugrats (or their
parents!) spraying graffiti all over “your” garage, the neighbors’
underpants flapping on the line in the front yard and the other
neighbors’ music blaring? File that under disappointing.
The
nature of a neighborhoods changes - sometimes dramatically - before and
after the sun goes down. Also, if you visit a home during the week or
when it’s cold and rainy out, the street will undoubtedly be busier and
noisier - more reflective of the extremes you should be aware of - on
the weekend or when the weather is grand. So, before you buy, go see
the place in sunlight and after dark, during the week and on the
weekend. And, again, there’s nothing wrong with knocking on the
neighbors’ doors, telling them you’re thinking of buying, and seeing
what kind of insider information you can glean from them!
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I liked this article until I got down to the line drying comment. I hang my clothes out to save energy. As well my mother did, and one of my best friends does. I definitely plan on talking to the neighbors before I buy, but I am a little annoyed that you put that in your list of undesirables- it seems to me that if my neighbors care about the Earth, that they will also care about the neighborhood, the way their children behave, and their neighbors. Sorry that you seem to be linking low income (another reason people hang out laundry) with low class...NOT the case.
I would add a number "6", for school rankings! Many consumers come to my area, Temecula, in Souwest Riverside County, because the schools are rated so highly. In fact, Great Oak High School, in South Temecula was just rated the highest ranking school in all of Riverside and San Bernardino Counties, combined!
School rankings are essential and can show the overall health of the community. Areas where schools are ranked highly show a large amount of parent participation and this means that parents are involved in the lives of their children.
I AGREE ABOUT THE UNDERPANTS ON THE LINE IN THE FRONT YARD, BUT WOULD HAVE NO TROUBLE HANGING MY UNDIES IN THE BACK YARD BEHIND MY HOUSE OR GARAGE WHERE NO ONE WOULD SEE THEM. I ALWAYS HANG MY SHEETS OUTSIDE. LOVE THE SMELL OF FRESH LINENS!
I agree with Jer Gervasi. There's class and then there's low-brow. You shouldn't air your clean or dirty linen in public, aka, the front yard. That is ghetto, redneck, crass, etc. If that's your thing, then go for it!
I've just got to comment on this item:
Are we talking grungy boxer shorts, a dingy grey, very old with holes in them? Flapping loudly with flies all around? Or perhaps a new, bright pink pair of ladies panties/ Or old yellows full of stains, maybe clean, maybe not-so-clean? Some stylish blacks? (is this one of the neighborhoods rated on the beauty of it's inhabitants; and does their underwear reflect that?) Are the clothespins half-broken and ugly, or does the clothesline smack of good organization and care? Either way, I'd prefer the backyard.
I have no problem with sun-drying anything in the backyard, out of sight of people in the neighborhood. If most families in a neiborhood do that, it shows that they are considerate people with taste and style. I do have big problem with whatever clothing flapping in the front yard, in your face, which is low class and no taste.
The key to the underwear flapping is the phrase "in the front yard," to me. I am moving and don't/won't need a dryer because I will be using a clothesline in the BACK yard. Not only to be green and save energy but I like the way the clothes feel and smell when they're hung outside. It's gotten to be that maintaining wasteful lawns, clothes drying inside and laws against gray water use have guided us into a societal stranglehold with wasteful and even dangerous practices. I think that is too bad.
If you want to hang out your clothing on a clothes line you should have it in the back yard behind your house. Nobody wants to see your under clothes unless they are some kind of pervert. Hanging out clothes is fine, but you don't have to do it in plain sight of any and everyone who drives down the street or walks out their front door. Unless, of course, you are trying to prove to your neighbors the you are "earth friendly", which shows a lack of self confidence. Anyway, don't make your neighbors and neighborhood pay for your need to feel like you are better than everyone else.
Great article Tara. There are definitely some things I wish I'd known about my neighborhood. Might well have sent me looking elsewhere. But whose to say I would have ever made my mind up had I known the details about each neighborhood. Not saying ignorance is bliss, but it sure accelerated the decision to buy. All in all, it turned out to be a good decision. And yes, it would've been even better without the surprises down the road.
It all depends on your socio-economic level Paul Dorsey. I lived all over Philadelphia before moving to Atlanta and the same can be said about white neighborhoods as well. No class is no class no matter where you live. I spent my teenage years living in West Mt, Airy and the environment was so much better than it was when I lived in the Northeast. Please educate yourself about people in general before making uneducated statements.
My aunt bought a beautiful brownstone condo unit in Brookline MA in the 750k range. All was well until she realized that liberal Brookline had purchased four buildings across the street for low income "projects". From the raucous school age kids in the morning until about dark wasn't bad but then the rappers and stoop hangers with their "ghetto blasters" came out and the police could do nothing about the noise. Her dream retirement abode became a nightmare she was stuck with.
I would hang my clothes out in the front yard, too, if it would keep idiots who are much too full of themselves OUT of the neighborhood. What jerks. Our country did laundry that way for many years, where do you come of making comments about that, of all things?
No clothes drying in the front where people drive or walk by.... it's UGLY!!! But there's nothing wrong with hanging it in the back yard where its private. Largo Florida
Some people live only for themselves and their onesided perspective. When living in a community (meaning many), we all should consider there are others who may not necessarily condone our self-centered ideals We use all kinds of reasons for why we do what we do, but the bottom line in living in a community, means we may have to give up some of the things we personally like, to consider others around us. Our ancestors did many things before us that we no longer do today, it's called evolution. As the communities change, so do we. It's called adapting to the times. I personally would not want to live next to a neighbor who would display their underwear flapping on the front clothesline whether they are pink, raggedy, stained, dingy or otherwise. No one other than you needs to know how large, dingy, what color or style your unmentionables are. Some things are just plain old PERSONAL! Yes, we may all wear them so what's the big deal? Well, we all go to the bathroom too, but I don't want to see what you left behind, neither would I leave mine for you to see. Sheets, towels and outer apparel, ok in the back yard; but undergarments of any kind would be off limits in my opinon. And Tracy, I agree with you that this behavior has absolutely nothing to do with race. Some people make everything a race issue, when they really show is how racially bias they are themselves. CLASS can't be imitated, it has to come from within. IGNORANCE, on the otherhand, comes in all colors.
As you can see Davidm, it stirred up quite a real hornets nest. Just goes to show that although we all may be each others neighbors, we don't necessarily agree on something as common as what and where people hang their laundry. Inside, it's your business, outside it becomes community business! This is why an article such as this is so very important to consider when purchasing a home you may have to live in for years, while having to tolerate something that really annoys you. I would never have thought this topic would stir up this much controversy as well. I also would have never thought to even consider this a problem before buying a home.
No one should hang their underwear outside anywhere, unless they are WOOL. With that being said, underwear and delicate and will dry well inside the privacy of your home. Great informative article, Tara!
underware's not my problem, it's three people who have 6 autos, and no place to put them but in the front yard. . not to mention the 20 ft trailer used to transport there tractor. plus trying to sell my home , whew! it's exhusting.
I had a neighbor who turned out to be a RSO...he put undies on his clothesline all the time to dry...There were usually picked up by others before he got home ~ THANK GOD. I guess those weren't his.
I think that more important than a schools actual rating is how does a school hold up to the bar when you question parents about the schools in the area. our schools rank very high but these are only numbers. the actual schools are terrible when you deal with them on a face to face basis. one school makes children sit on hats known as "THe red squares" these are small red squares painted on the black top,intended as punishment for even the smallest infraction. the school is in the desert and the blacktop is hot enough to cause blistering on skin even through clothing. the district sees nothing wrong with this policy. be carefull of the schools,talk to parents.it may sound nuts,but stand at the grocery store and stop people and ask for an opinion on all the area schools
Tara, I think you did a great job with the article. Obviously, you stepped on some toes. I could only afford a certain house when I was a single mother, my neighbors drove me crazy. They were definitely not people of character. They were always fighting and cursing. They dealt drugs. They were always trying to sue somone in the neighborhood. I was so glad when I moved away from them to a better, upscale neighborhood.
And the racist award goes to...(drum roll)...PAUL DORSEY! Congratulations on not only being ignorant, but also being ignorant of your ignorance (made apparent by not only thinking the way you do, but posting it like it was an educated statement that everyone would agree with!) Bravo!
Nice piece Tara, particulularly related to number 5, checking the neigborhood out at different time intervals..Funny, here in LA, I was checking out a property in trendy Abbot Kinney (adjacent Venice/Santa Monica) and the Realtor at the open house, a small fixer for $600K, had the audacity to extoll the safety of the particular street , adding that there was a three block buffer from gang ridden streets. Realtors will lie, particularly on safety issues. When it comes to buying a Condo, check the rentors ratio and also
one can tell much from the type of automobiles streaming in and out. Even certain types of new expensive cars (Escalades) denote Ghetto, whereas expensive big flashy trucks can be Redneck or Ranchero Mex, which does not bode well. Even Sect 8 types, can be renting a unit in a large nice condo devolopement.
I enjoy these Trulia blogs, and this one is a little differnt from the past several weeks. Where are the usual plethora of Realtors complaining about astute buyers who refuse to go along with their programs of overpaying in this continuing downward trending market. Much has changed in public awareness within the past three days and it is obvioius that realtors cannot be trusted when it comes to advisng buyers on current property values. Prices will further errode across the board. All offers should be at a 25% discount, too damn bad if the Agent does not like it. Within the past two week on Trulia, not one Agent forecasting the dire news of the past few days, but coninued to paint a rosey pidcture of a stabalizing market.
Yes Tara, Due Diligence on behalf of the buyers, most Realtors cannot be trusted on the value or safety factors of a particular neighborhood.
Aparently none are too Recession-Risistant ex., Governor Rick Scott - Florida inacted ability to let for profit Home Insurance Companies drive up rates substantially which obviates the need for me to purchase... smile :-)
Why all of the childish posts here on the humorous underwear illustration. Also, one must carefyully analyze purchasing in a trendy neighborhood adajacent the barrio/ghetto. Usually they are gang infested .,plus Ranchero and Rap blasting day and night.
None are recession proof, as of June 2011, even in Beverly Hils there has been 30% price reductions .. same as in Newport Beach, Santa Monica, Malibu and throughout so called recession proof SoCal .. granted not the 60% reduction as in Arizona and Nevada
Don't forget about loud barking dogs next door, I've moved into great places only to be dismayed by neighboring dogs, that would bark incessantly night or day. Try to monitor sound levels at different times or ask the agent before signing.
Condos - Smokers, Incense burners, this is a near impossible one to determine. Had a Condo overlooking the Pacific Ocean, only to to have a neighbor who burned strawberry flavored incense 24/7, thus no benefit of fresh air. One tactic before buying is to convass neighbors or even pay a neighbor a nominal fee for the true story as to any possible nuiscances. One usually cannot rely on a Realtor to tell the truth in these matters, and they will usually downplay even known problems which are evident. Also, ask about any conditiuoins such as water severly pooling in the street during heavy rains.
Buyers, your only recourse is constant Due Dilligence and husbands should remember to not acquise to one's wife or kids who think they must have a certain house, particulalry in the event of settling for unsavory neighbors and this even applies to upscale surburban settings, ie, a nice grandma who has her hoodrat gran kids constantly visiting.
I shake my head at some of the reviewers comments about number 5. They veered off and put such a spin on it. I had no trouble discerning what was meant by the author's "educational information." Nor, did I find it offensive. I wouldn't want that to happen to me, and I'm no a snob. Try Social Worker. Perhaps they are the ones who would put six cars in the driveway and hang laundry in the front yard, and not recognize or care how it affects their neighborhood. Or, maybe, they live there already.
As a realtor I can't always say a whole lot about crime and desirability of neighborhoods. I always tell clients to visit Saturday early afternoon when neighbors are about - they will usually spill the beans on any problems. Neighbors have mentioned a drive by shooting at the house next door and a suicide by the owner at another house. Ask about barking dogs. Also, park the car on a Saturday night and see what is going on with the neighborhood. This is also very important for condo buyers - talk to people who currently live in the building to see if there are any HOA nightmares.
I just have to say that human nature is, indeed, quite, well...human.
All the ideas, opinions, words-that-I-can't-stand (UBER!!!...Ick!), and what gets all the press???
UNDERPANTS HANGING IN THE FRONT YARD OR BACK YARD?...BOXERS OR BRIEFS? (I know. Nobody actually said this...RACIST OR NOT?
Oh Lord! And I mean, OOOOhhhhhh Lord! Is it me, or does it seem that my generation (any generation for that matter) never grows up. We all hit about 12 years of age and most of us (myself included) stop progressing in the maturity sense.
Anyway Tara, nice conversation starter.
Ethnic pecularities beyond the barrio/ghettos of LA
Glendale/East Hollywood - Armenian, Russian emigres drying clothes on balcony railings, too many used carsf for sale on the street
Monterey Park, Alhambra, San Gabriel - Asians drying cloths on balcony railings, btw the way, great safe neighborhoods, fabulous food and solid investment opportunites
Great article- Neighborhood is so important. You can change a lot of details on your home, but a bad neighborhood can trump your efforts. It is important to your research for sanity and resale.
Giovanna - Read Darwin, visit LA, the reality is surviving, this is not Fla
As to ethnic neighoborhoods in LA, I prefer Asian enclaves, since they are safe
vibrant, strong resale and a bonus for me, since i love Asian women. No worry
of being knocked upside the head, car jacked, burlgarized or having my new luxury
BMW being vandalized due to class envy. They will. however, hang clothes from
balconies, which is OK for me.
You bring up some good points. Research is very important for homebuyers. They should know exactly where they are buying and they should be comfortable wherever they choose.
Important things to note depending on your age and stage are convenience of medical care, locations of higher education, and availability of your chosen house of worship.
I encourage my buyer clients to do as much research as possible on the web before they make the decision to purchase a home in an area that they are not familiar with. Being conscious of steering and/or discrimination, I encourage clients to go to the new census web site for very good information about communities.
I haven't read these Trulia blogs before, but the title of this one pulled me in as I'm moving back to USA from Australia - it seemed I could use the tips... In addition to some great advice, the entertainment value alone was worth it!! I'll keep reading... ;-)
I agree that hanging ones underwear in the front yard is distasteful, however I would much rather tolerate my neighbor's quietly flapping in the breeze underwear even in the front yard, since I can avert my eyes, rather than having to hear loud motorcycles and boom cars and the barking and crying of neglected dogs. All these noises can be heard even over the noisy window a/c and sound machine I have to sleep with.
Very good hints on home buying......alas,I too hang my laundry out to dry in the BACK of the house. No one should object to that if said laundry is then taken inside in a timely manner.
Loving all the comments about hanging out the washing. I have just moved her from the UK and was suprised that everyone seems to use dryers and not the clothes line. Mind you we only use the back yard. Not the front unless you have an apartment. And our weather is awful so we have more reason to use dryers. School districts was a major one for us.
Good Article. I am a retired police officer who was injured in the line of duty. I am now working on a business plan that allows future homeowners to contract me to recon the neighborhood they are thinking about moving into. As a former police officer I am able to pick up details that might raise a red flag and personally talk to the fellow brothers in arms who patrol the neighborhood. A detailed report of my findings would be submitted along with photos of the area. There are many other services involved but it's still in the making. I just wanted some input from some of the readers of this article who obviously care about where they live or where they're going to live. Thank You!
Check the covinents for neighborhood. Check the price of other recent neighborhood home sales. You don't want to be the most expensive home on the block. Take a walk of the block at different times.
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School rankings are essential and can show the overall health of the community. Areas where schools are ranked highly show a large amount of parent participation and this means that parents are involved in the lives of their children.
Are we talking grungy boxer shorts, a dingy grey, very old with holes in them? Flapping loudly with flies all around? Or perhaps a new, bright pink pair of ladies panties/ Or old yellows full of stains, maybe clean, maybe not-so-clean? Some stylish blacks? (is this one of the neighborhoods rated on the beauty of it's inhabitants; and does their underwear reflect that?) Are the clothespins half-broken and ugly, or does the clothesline smack of good organization and care? Either way, I'd prefer the backyard.
Thank you Trulia!
Julia at Realty ONE--Las Vegas :)
one can tell much from the type of automobiles streaming in and out. Even certain types of new expensive cars (Escalades) denote Ghetto, whereas expensive big flashy trucks can be Redneck or Ranchero Mex, which does not bode well. Even Sect 8 types, can be renting a unit in a large nice condo devolopement.
I enjoy these Trulia blogs, and this one is a little differnt from the past several weeks. Where are the usual plethora of Realtors complaining about astute buyers who refuse to go along with their programs of overpaying in this continuing downward trending market. Much has changed in public awareness within the past three days and it is obvioius that realtors cannot be trusted when it comes to advisng buyers on current property values. Prices will further errode across the board. All offers should be at a 25% discount, too damn bad if the Agent does not like it. Within the past two week on Trulia, not one Agent forecasting the dire news of the past few days, but coninued to paint a rosey pidcture of a stabalizing market.
Yes Tara, Due Diligence on behalf of the buyers, most Realtors cannot be trusted on the value or safety factors of a particular neighborhood.
Aparently none are too Recession-Risistant ex., Governor Rick Scott - Florida inacted ability to let for profit Home Insurance Companies drive up rates substantially which obviates the need for me to purchase... smile :-)
Buyers, your only recourse is constant Due Dilligence and husbands should remember to not acquise to one's wife or kids who think they must have a certain house, particulalry in the event of settling for unsavory neighbors and this even applies to upscale surburban settings, ie, a nice grandma who has her hoodrat gran kids constantly visiting.
All the ideas, opinions, words-that-I-can't-stand (UBER!!!...Ick!), and what gets all the press???
UNDERPANTS HANGING IN THE FRONT YARD OR BACK YARD?...BOXERS OR BRIEFS? (I know. Nobody actually said this...RACIST OR NOT?
Oh Lord! And I mean, OOOOhhhhhh Lord! Is it me, or does it seem that my generation (any generation for that matter) never grows up. We all hit about 12 years of age and most of us (myself included) stop progressing in the maturity sense.
Anyway Tara, nice conversation starter.
Glendale/East Hollywood - Armenian, Russian emigres drying clothes on balcony railings, too many used carsf for sale on the street
Monterey Park, Alhambra, San Gabriel - Asians drying cloths on balcony railings, btw the way, great safe neighborhoods, fabulous food and solid investment opportunites
As to ethnic neighoborhoods in LA, I prefer Asian enclaves, since they are safe
vibrant, strong resale and a bonus for me, since i love Asian women. No worry
of being knocked upside the head, car jacked, burlgarized or having my new luxury
BMW being vandalized due to class envy. They will. however, hang clothes from
balconies, which is OK for me.
Ruth