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Life after Foreclosure for Tenants May 20, 2009

Things are changing daily in the world of Real Estate!!

A new law has been past that affects tenants after a home has been foreclosed on.

On May 20, 2009 President Obama signed into law the passage of  SB 896.   (Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure Act of 2009) This law effects everyone in the United States, unless your state offers something better. This Federal law does not preempt state and local laws, if their laws are better for the tenant.

What does SB 896 mean for the tenant living in a home that has been foreclosed on?

If the lease was the result of an arms-length transaction
(not a family member of the mortgagor- in other words--the owner of the home being foreclosed on) ---- and----
the amount of rent collected is not substantially less than the going rent for the area.

  1. Leases will survive a foreclosure-Great news for tenants!!!
  • If your lease is a one year lease-it stays in effect until the end of your lease.  Unless the lease expires in less than 90 days after the foreclosure sale.  In that case, you could stay till the 90 days were up.
  • If you have a month to month lease-- tenants would be entitled to a 90 day notice. (Which is longer than the 1 month's notice you could of gotten on a normal sale.)
  • If you're on housing or have a Section 8 voucher, the same laws apply to you. If you do get a 90-Day notice to vacate. Contact your local housing agency.  That way, you'll be able to transfer your voucher to another home.

The only thing that could change this, for the tenants, is if the new owner wants the home for a primary residence.  In that case, the lease is void and the tenant is given a 90 day notice to leave the home.

You don't want them to have a reason to evict, so pay your rent even during the foreclosure process.

Something to think about:
This may be a great time for the tenant to think about buying their own home.  With the $8,000 first time buyer tax credit, that doesn't have to be paid back, you may just be able to buy your first home.  You'll have to be in your home by the end of November 2009, but what a wonderful way to enjoy Christmas.  If you haven't owned a home in 3 years you can qualify as a first time owner.

Comments

By Dogwood,  Wed Aug 19 2009, 20:11
Can the tenants break their lease if the find out the property is in forclosure?
By Gilda Baxter SRES, GRI,  Thu Aug 20 2009, 05:20
As a land lord myself, I've found that we're all different. I'd try giving a written 30 day notice and state the reason you're breaking the lease is due to the foreclosure. You may be wanting to stay in one place for years. You won't be able to stay in a foreclosure for years, that is for sure.

You need to remember that the lease is still in effect.

But the land lord may let you out of the lease due to what is going on with the house.

I would think once the foreclosure has happen that the new owner (usually the lien holder/bank) would be glad to get the home back on the market. That way the home could be sold to someone wanting to move into the home.

This new law is to protect the tenant. Many tenants were uprooted and had to find places to live "Now" This new law prevents that from happening.
By Cbmac,  Tue Aug 25 2009, 11:28
I'm in South Florida, and our house has been in forclosure for almost a year. We are renting, and just found out about it in March, and we just renewed another year in January 2009, but in March when we found this out we were told we dont have to pay our lanlord anymore, since the property is in forclosure. We've tried to contact our lanlord, but have had no success. In so many words we have not paid rent since April. Our property is being auctioned off this week. If i understand correctly, we will have 90 days to move out, from the date of the auction? and the new buyer, which may also be the bank? may charge us whatever our monthly rent was on the lease before our lanlord left us in the dark? for those next 90 days. And my other question is will we be notified by certified mail, like we have been by the courts in the past on updates, about the forclosure and auction, as to what happened at the auction and what the next step is?!? I appreciate any offerings of advise or knowledge you can send my way.
By Gilda Baxter SRES, GRI,  Tue Aug 25 2009, 13:42
Hello Cbmac;
The only problem I see is that you haven't been paying the rent. Who told you not to pay the rent? If the rent hasn't been paid, you could be evicted for non payment of rent.
I would think you would be notified, especially since the bank has been doing it all along.
If they tell you to move out, bring up SB896. "May 20, 2009 President Obama signed into law the passage of SB 896. (Protecting Tenants at Foreclosure Act of 2009)" The banks will know about this new law. According to the new law, you will be able to stay in the home till the end of the lease since you signed a new lease in January of this year. Unless it's an owner occupied buyer. Then you're looking at 90 days.
Let me know what happens.
Gilda Baxter
http://www.GildaBaxter.com
By Cbmac,  Wed Aug 26 2009, 07:34
To answer your question about who told us to stop paying, several people, we actually had a plumbing problem and a broken fridge and he hadnt returned our calls or come out to fix it, so at that point we stopped paying the rent and fixed everything ourselves, we've still tried in the interim to contact him as well because we really have been left in the dark as to whats going on or what to do, and we just still havent heard from him at all.
Thank you for the information I just have one more question. So for that 90 days or until the lease is up, we are owed to the bank or new buyer whatever our monthly lease amount was, or are we rent free for 90 days? How will that work? Thank you again, you've already been huge help!
By Gilda Baxter SRES, GRI,  Wed Aug 26 2009, 12:41
Hello Cbmac
You will be making rent payments during the 90 days or until the lease is up. Hope you guys come out ok. I know it's hard days for many people. I'm just very thankful that the tenants are being taken care during this time in our history.
Gilda Baxter
http://www.GildaBaxter.com
By Cbmac,  Thu Aug 27 2009, 14:30
So auction was yesterday and believe it or NOT (because I don't) our old landlord (who went missing) called today said he'll be coming by with a new lease for us starting September 1st since he is the new owner on the house. We dont really want to stay especially under his ownersip and he completely left us in the dark. What are our options. It sounds like we only have 2, move out by the 1st, or sign a new lease? Is that true? We obviously cannot up and move in a week, but we also do not wish to stay there another year, starting now.
Thank You again.
By Gilda Baxter SRES, GRI,  Thu Aug 27 2009, 16:53
Hello Cbmac
Contact the new owner (make sure he is the new owner) (have him prove it) and tell him you don't want to stay a year, if truely you don't. Tell him you want to go on a month to month lease. Give him the reasons that you don't want to stay. Be honest. At this point sounds like he's not honoring the old lease anyway. Make sure you give him a month's notice, in writing, if he accepts a month to month lease. Could you be out by the end of September? Then give the 30 day notice if that's what you want. That may be the best for the both of you since you guys have hard feelings. The owner may not like a month to month, but you may not like the fact that you've gone through a foreclosure either. Just try and talk this out between the both of you, but let him know your feelings. Discuss with your mate what you guys really want to do. Once you know for sure, then approach the owner of the home you're in.
Let me know what happens. Many tenants have gone through this. It's very hard to have a home go into foreclosure. It's also very hard to be the tenant. My heart goes out to you guys...
By B,  Thu Sep 3 2009, 10:03
Hi,

Hi,

I live in SF, Bay Area (CA) and my house foreclosed on sept 7. How much time do I have to pac and leave the property. I also want to know who evicts you and do they issue so foreclosure eviction me kind of warrant if you are still in the home?

B
By Gilda Baxter SRES, GRI,  Thu Sep 3 2009, 14:56
Hello B;
I just wrote a Blog on this same subject. But for you I'll copy part of the Blog.
I’ve been asked on different occasions, what happens to the owner after the Foreclosure Sale. There are usually two different ways the new lien holder will handle the ex-owner of the foreclosed home.
1. The bank can offer what is called “Cash for Keys” Just remember the bank doesn’t have to offer anything. If they do offer this, I suggest you take it.
a. The amount of money offered will be determined by the home value, location, bank etc…
I’ve seen the amount as low as $300 and as high as $2,000.
Example: a $60,000 home may not get as much cash as a $260,000.
b. In return the ex-owner has to be out of the home within the determined amount of days. (anywhere between 10-30 days) You can negotiate the money amount and also the days.
c. The home will need to be left in a good clean condition. (inside and outside) That doesn’t mean all the repairs need to be done, but the home does need to be CLEAN inside and outside.
d. If it’s not clean, you don’t get any money.
e. The Realtor ® is the one that hands the Ex-owner the check. It’s in the vested interest of the Realtor® to make sure the place is clean. If the Realtor® still needs the home to be cleaned and the ex-owner has moved out. It is now the Realtor that will have to pay for the cleaning. So you can bet your bottom dollar that the Realtor® will want you to have leave the home clean.
And then there’s another way. And it’s not pretty…
2. Eviction
a. After the bank buys the property back, they will have a Realtor® market the home.
b. The Realtor® does not do the eviction.
c. The bank has attorneys that do that.
d. The attorney starts the eviction process just like a normal eviction.
e. It usually takes around 2 months.
f. After the date and time has been set for the eviction, the bank will want the Listing agent (Realtor ®) to have a crew of people remove the ex-owners belongings to the curb. Of course the sheriff will be there also.
g. The sheriff will escort the ex-owner from the home.
h. The home will be re-keyed.
i. After 24 hours the Bank will have a property preservation company remove any of the belongings that are still on the curb. (thrown into a dumpster and taken away)
j. “the neighbors may end up helping themselves to your belongings also”
k. This process can take around 60 days.
Just hope the Bank offers you “Cash for Keys” or you may even bring it up if they don’t.
By Cbmac,  Wed Sep 9 2009, 08:20
Hi Gilda,
You've been a great help so far, but i wanted to fill you in on where we stand, and ask for your input once more. So our landlord forwarded us the deed, and he is in fact the owner of our property, once again. He typed up a lease its more than what we were paying before, and he has to have a years lease from us, he does not want it to be month to month, like we had requested. Bottom line, we can not afford what he's asking as well as commit to another year, which we've informed him, since receiving these new lease terms. We are looking to move as soon as possible, but times are tough, my roomate and I just started work after being unemployed at least 6 months. My question for you is, Do we HAVE to be out by October 1st like he is saying, if we do not sign this lease he has handed us. Legally, what are our rights in this situation? Its going to be hard for us to pack up our home, find a new place to rent and have money for at least first and security in a new home in 3 weeks time. We are going to try our best to obviously vacate as soon as possible, but financially we're in a tough situation, so I just want to know legally, what are our options, and do we have options in this situation. Thank you kindly, once again!
By Gilda Baxter SRES, GRI,  Wed Sep 9 2009, 10:02
Hello Cbmac
So sorry to hear about your problems. There are so many people going through things. It breaks my heart.

What your landlord can do since you didn't pay rent during the foreclosure process--

First let me say--you may want to talk to a lawyer about this just to be sure. There may be things I'm unaware of that a lawyer may know. It's always a good thing to check things out before you do something.

But since you didn't pay rent during the foreclosure, what I could see happening--- is you could be evicted.
If you're not out by the 1st part of October, he could start an eviction process on you. You may let him know that you plan on moving out and see if he'll give you another month. But as a landlord myself. I don't like vacant homes during the month of Nov or Dec. (It's harder to rent during those months--holidays) Maybe he'll go to Jan. 2010. I know I would.
He's going to want you out so he can get the place ready to rent. But it sure wouldn't hurt to ask for another month or two since he's raised the rent. You may even offer to pay the raised rent amount for a couple of months. I'm sorry I couldn't be more help. I think you need to talk to a lawyer on this one.

Let me know what you do and how it turned out. I surely don't mind hearing from you.
Gilda Baxter
By Manny651,  Mon Sep 28 2009, 10:27
Hi Gilda,
We are currently renting a home which the lease expires in December. We just recently found out that the owner defaulted on the mortgage last year and a lis pendens was filed in October 2008, before we even signed the lease! When we started receiving letters addressed to the owner from foreclosure attorneys, and the lender, we questioned the owner and he said everything was ok and that he was working with his attorneys on a "loan modification". Whether this is true or not, we don't know, but regardless the owner has not been completely upfront with what is going on and still collecting our rent payments. The owner has told us that the home will not be foreclosed and not to worry, he'll work everything out, and would like us to sign a new 1 year lease, which we are interested in. Given this new law that just passed,that protects bona fide leases, would we be protected if we signed a new 1 year lease starting this December or even a new lease that supersedes the old lease starting now? Let's say the home gets foreclosed next month, would we be protected by this new lease?
By Gilda Baxter SRES, GRI,  Mon Sep 28 2009, 10:46
Hello Manny
The 1 year lease has to start before the foreclosure process begins. Sounds like the process started before your 1st lease to me. Is that true? Since the lease started after the beginning of the foreclosure process, you may not be protected to the end of the lease. You could try and get the bank to honor the current lease.

And remember to always check advice with a lawyer to make sure you're ok.

Thanks for sharing,
Gilda Baxter
By Manny651,  Mon Sep 28 2009, 12:02
Thanks for the info Gilda. We would still be granted the 90 days though, right?
By Gilda Baxter SRES, GRI,  Mon Sep 28 2009, 12:52
Hello Manny
Acording to the law, your lease has to start before the foreclosure started. I would hope that you could stay the 90 days. Keep record of paying all the rent and make sure you keep your lease. Have the paperwork ready, so when something comes down you can show the lien holder your paperwork. Let me know what happens. So many people are going through this at this time.

Hope this helps,
Gilda Baxter
By Manny651,  Mon Oct 19 2009, 15:32
Gilda, thought you may be interested in an update on our situation. We were able to negotiate a reduction in our rent for the risk we are taking due to the foreclosure. Everything is out in the open now. On the new lease it is also written that he will pay us a fine if the foreclosure event happens during the term of the lease (he insists that this won't happen since his attorneys are working on the loan modification), however we now have written protection and of course we still have the 90 days given by law for us to find another place should this happen. We are satisfied with this. And thanks for your help.
By Gilda Baxter SRES, GRI,  Mon Oct 19 2009, 16:30
Hello Manny
First-thank you for getting back to me. I did wonder what happened.
Just make sure the amount of rent collected is not substantially less than the going rent for the area.
Glad to help,
Gilda Baxter

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